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8 Replies Last post: May 15, 2008 11:24 AM by P2P Systems  

How many nuked your Boot Camp partition after you installed VMware? posted: May 13, 2008 3:07 PM

Click to view FenderBender's profile Novice 30 posts since
May 5, 2008
Just curious. After you installed VMware and started running your Windows apps inside VM, how many of you deleted your BC partitions so you could run Windows in VM only? I have dual boot capability and am also running my BC partition in Fusion and honestly can't see any reason to boot XP natively anymore. Plus, I'd like to have the abilty to suspend XP without having to hack my vmx file or risk corrupting my XP installation. Anyone been in the same/similar boat?
Click to view tsmit50's profile Novice 13 posts since
Jan 22, 2008
i keep it around for... get this... VMWare Workstation.

Completely absurd, i know... but until Fusion has multiple snaps/manager; i just can't part with it.. I do all my development of VM Images in Bootcamp with workstation, then port it over to Fusion.

Another good app for BC is WEbex... some reason; webex is the suck on Mac
Click to view asatoran's profile Virtuoso vExpert 3,079 posts since
Jun 23, 2006
My Boot Camp is for reference when helping someone else out. :8} I also use it to demo that a VM is as good or better than Boot Camp for many of the Windows apps that my clients have to run. For example, I show the client right-clicking in Boot Camp with a MacBook.
Click to view lenrev's profile Novice 7 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
I considered this until I realized that Fusion will not work with serial ports via USB adaptor and other USB devices. It would appear that VMWare has no intention to provide this capability so I have to use Boot Camp for many of my Windows applications.
Click to view lenrev's profile Novice 7 posts since
Dec 14, 2007
Sorry, deleted. Wrong thread.
Click to view Obeechi's profile Hot Shot 439 posts since
Jan 25, 2007
I ran both for a while, in fact when I bought my MacBook Pro, for the longest time I only ran it in Boot Camp and scarely used OSX. Then I ran Boot Camp in a VM alongside a non-boot-camp VM, then finally got rid of Boot Camp. With only 100 GB, it was too much to have both, and I really don't like rebooting, and I do like the idea of a growable disk.
Click to view P2P Systems's profile Novice 9 posts since
May 15, 2008
So, I have maybe the opposite question. Is there any value to using Boot Camp if I'm already up and running with Fusion?

I'm new to the Mac side of the house and just got my iMac. As such, I don't fully understand Boot Camp and I haven't done anything with it. Fusion seemed to make more sense since you don't have to re-boot to flip back and forth between the OS.

With Boot Camp, does XP run natively? Or is it still "virtual?"

I guess the reason I ask is because I do play video games every once in a while. I've got a couple of games that I've never been able to play because my Dell Laptop didn't have enough juice with the video card. I've got the souped up iMac with 4 GB RAM and the NVIDIA graphics card, so theoretically it should be able to play the games. I tried both running on Fusion, and they wouldn't run. I think because they don't really see the video card, just a virtual video driver from Fusion.

I was wondering if installing Boot Camp might be the answer. If I did so, would this mean that I have a completely separate install of XP on my iMac? Would there be any problems with Fusion that is running just fine?

Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Thanks!
Click to view asatoran's profile Virtuoso vExpert 3,079 posts since
Jun 23, 2006
P2P Systems wrote:

With Boot Camp, does XP run natively? Or is it still "virtual?"


Yes, it is run "natively." That is when you Boot Camp, only Windows is running, OSX is not.

I guess the reason I ask is because I do play video games every once in a while. I've got a couple of games that I've never been able to play because my Dell Laptop didn't have enough juice with the video card. I've got the souped up iMac with 4 GB RAM and the NVIDIA graphics card, so theoretically it should be able to play the games. I tried both running on Fusion, and they wouldn't run. I think because they don't really see the video card, just a virtual video driver from Fusion.

That is correct. In the virtual machine, your game doesn't directly see the NVIDIA card. It sees a SVGA II card. So many of the more graphics intense games won't work.

I was wondering if installing Boot Camp might be the answer. If I did so, would this mean that I have a completely separate install of XP on my iMac? Would there be any problems with Fusion that is running just fine?

So yes, your answer may be Boot Camp. Your game will directly use the NVIDIA card. You already have a XP virtual machine and this is completely separate from the Boot Camp installation of Windows. You will need a separate license to install Windows in Boot Camp. (Or delete the XP virtual machine and reuse it's license. When you try to activate the Boot Camp XP, it may warn you that you've already activated it and would need to call Microsoft for activation.) Be sure to read the Fusion FAQ and other documentation on using the Boot Camp Windows as a virtual machine, if that's what you want to do.
Click to view P2P Systems's profile Novice 9 posts since
May 15, 2008
Thanks for the reply Asatoran.  Very informative.

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