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hoju wrote: I am not sure what would motivate someone who doesn't work for VMware to post non-answers that sound like they come from a legal department.
Notwithstanding, as another avid VMware user, I would like to see this made a priority. I don't give a rats hiney whether there is support, but given the nature of the installation mechanism and how hard it is to compile and * install * the already posted and obvious fixes manually, it would be nice if the clever folks on the VMware dev team would do that for us and make it available in an unsupported capacity.
I hardly think stating the facts sound like it comes from the Legal Department! As to whether it's a "non-answer" that's your opinion which of course you're entitled to however when you have helped as many people that I have and provided the number of original solutions that I have then maybe your opinion will mean something to me! Notwithstanding, as another avid VMware user, I would like to see this made a priority. I don't give a rats hiney whether there is support, but given the nature of the installation mechanism and how hard it is to compile and * install * the already posted and obvious fixes manually, it would be nice if the clever folks on the VMware dev team would do that for us and make it available in an unsupported capacity.
If one is going to use a product in an unsupported way it's a little absurd to keep demanding that VMware do something about it! It is my understanding they are working on it and when they are ready they will, if they choose, provide something more then they have so far however until then all the bitching and complaining about unsupported scenarios gets one nowhere!
diamondsw wrote: Linux isn't supported? News to me. Makes their whole platform a little pointless then.
I never said the Linux wasn't supported! I said "It makes little difference that Ubuntu 8.04 (and other Linux 2.6.24 kernel distros) have been officially released or not as neither are officially supported by VMware Fusion." and that is not the same thing as saying Linux isn't supported. There are obviously many different flavors of Linux that are supported as well as kernel versions however it one looks at the documentation neither Ubuntu 8.04 or the 2.6.24 kernel are supported!!!
The delay on this makes me very, very upset.
The only advice I can offer is... Get over it!
Hmm. That might just work. Fiddly as hell, but might work. Be nice if sudo make install could run an included version of vmware-config-tools.pl, but maybe that's too obvious to have occurred to them.
AFAIK the open-vm-tools project was created by VMWare, so getting all us-and-them about it isn't really appropriate. This is VMWare themselves heading towards a good long-term solution for tools deployment and installation on Linux. It's just too early days for it to be a polished solution now.
So let's cool it with the invective, eh?
We're frustrated about the current lack of apparent, visible, useful progress for up-to-date Linux systems to run as vmware guests or hosts (this affects other VMWare products outside Fusion of course). No need to make it personal.
There is something sad about this forum. I don't live here, as some do... most of the time I happily use my VMware fusion and go about my day.
But on the rare occasion that I do decide to post out a concern, such as this one... it inevitably erupts into:
a) some condescending response with no content by a 3rd party speaking on behalf of VMware as some sort of fanboy and
b) some annoying exchange that ends up with some other 3rd party offering words of diplomatic appeasement.
Is it not possible to just post an issue to this forum and have the discussion be about "that issue". If VMware has some sort of point system encouraging people to reply with nonsense about "it is vmware policy to encourage people to reply that vmware does not wish to reply", I wish to voice my dislike of it, as customer. And that is * my * opinion... it has created a very annoying subculture that I don't find on other non-points oriented forums. I can't tell you how enjoyable it is to post about a technical issue, and receive technical replies.
And that message is for VMware to hear from a customer - I don't need * or want * a 3rd party reply.
Regards,
hoju
PS. Fair point about open-vm-tools, kudos to team at VMware. I am quite sure they have a sense of humor too... as a dev I am sure they appreciate the frustration of working within the confines of corporate policy. I think it is a great solution to the "supported" complication. Well done. The OSS jab was all in fun (back pedal, back pedal)
But on the rare occasion that I do decide to post out a concern, such as this one... it inevitably erupts into:
a) some condescending response with no content by a 3rd party speaking on behalf of VMware as some sort of fanboy and
b) some annoying exchange that ends up with some other 3rd party offering words of diplomatic appeasement.
Is it not possible to just post an issue to this forum and have the discussion be about "that issue". If VMware has some sort of point system encouraging people to reply with nonsense about "it is vmware policy to encourage people to reply that vmware does not wish to reply", I wish to voice my dislike of it, as customer. And that is * my * opinion... it has created a very annoying subculture that I don't find on other non-points oriented forums. I can't tell you how enjoyable it is to post about a technical issue, and receive technical replies.
And that message is for VMware to hear from a customer - I don't need * or want * a 3rd party reply.
Regards,
hoju
PS. Fair point about open-vm-tools, kudos to team at VMware. I am quite sure they have a sense of humor too... as a dev I am sure they appreciate the frustration of working within the confines of corporate policy. I think it is a great solution to the "supported" complication. Well done. The OSS jab was all in fun (back pedal, back pedal)
hoju wrote: I demanded nothing. I requested. Please refrain from "helping" me in the future - I find you irritating.
First of all it was you that responded to a post I made that was not addressed to you, so I responded to it and not necessarily with the intent to help you specifically, now don't turn that around, but to make a comment on what you had to say about my response. Beyond that I was not addressing you specifically as noted by the use of "one" as opposed to"you" in the remainder of my post and I was not trying to specifically say you were demanding or bitching or complaining and if you felt that then I'm sorry as my intent was more of a collective thought over the fact that people keep bringing up this same issue when the original answers that were given haven't changed... yet over and over....
No problem I won't try to help you in the future as I've not that I know of tried to help you in the past either. I find people continually asking for a fix to something not supported equally irritating.