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Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal

Apr 7, 2008 4:49 PM

Click to view DerekVS's profile Novice DerekVS 3 posts since
Apr 7, 2008

Hi. I have a question, similar to that asked by many people on many other forums and blogs. However, I'm hoping to get feedback for my specific proposed situation.

Unfortunately, I was the one who suggested VMware as a way to handle my company's growth while restricted by our limited 2-rack closet space. Well, my boss trusted my judgement and ordered a $10k, 64-bit, HP power-beast of a server on which we now have 5 VMs idling under ESX3.5.

Only then, did the backup challenge hit me. Anything leaving the host's teamed gigabit NICs is going to choke the VMs, so I can't consider that.

Since we have absolutely no plan (or budget) for going to SAN in the forseeable future, I came up with this backup scenario and would like feedback from other people on its potential viability in the face of our obvious bandwidth limitations.

First of all, we use Acronis True Image to take full volume backups of each of our servers every night. It has worked great and saved us on several occasions with our physical servers.

My idea is to:

1. Set up a "proxy" VM to mount an external SCSI drive on the host (assuming this is possible!)
2. Install Acronis True Image on each other VM
3. Have Acronis dump backup images to the "proxy" VM's attached storage

I know this kills a lot of the elegance of virtualization, but we really don't have the budget to add a second ESX server as a replication partner.

Does this sound like it would work out, or would it be too difficult to mount a host's external SCSI drive?

Thanks,
-Derek

Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 7, 2008 5:22 PM
Click to view MattG's profile Expert MattG 507 posts since
Jun 21, 2004

Have you considered just using VMWare's built in snapshot capability?

It is by far the cheapest solution;)

-Matt

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Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 8, 2008 4:54 AM
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Click to view Texiwill's profile Guru Texiwill 9,498 posts since
Jan 13, 2004
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Hello,

THere are several free tools out there to do full VMDK level backups....

1) VCB
2) vmbk.pl
3) VISBU

Also there are pay tools like:
vRanger Pro, esXpress, and Veeam Backup

esXpress has a free version as well.

Check out http://vmprofessional.com/index.php?content=esx3backups for a comparison.

I suggest however that you either use VCB from the command line, one of the scripts mentioned, or even the free version of esXpress.

These will all get you very solid backups with minimal fuss.


Best regards,
Edward L. Haletky
VMware Communities User Moderator
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Author of the book 'VMWare ESX Server in the Enterprise: Planning and Securing Virtualization Servers', Copyright 2008 Pearson Education. As well as the Virtualization Wiki at http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Virtualization
Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 8, 2008 5:07 AM
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Click to view azn2kew's profile Virtuoso azn2kew 2,219 posts since
Jun 21, 2006
If budget is the problem, I would use VISBU and its very easy utility created by Alex Mittel and I've used on some occassion due to client's budget but also esXpress is good for your 5 VMs environment as well. Using VCB as a proxy server is doable but with 5 VMs it doesn't worth the effort to setup it could be cumbersome sometimes and with ESX 3.5 you have the luxury to use VM as a proxy server instead earlier version required Windows 2003 server as a proxy and adds on to HBA cards to your expense. Sounds like VISBU or esXpress would be good and just create NFS shared over the network and that would get it going. You can also use OpenFiler for your free SAN systems which is great for small environment like yours.

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Regards,

Stefan Nguyen
iGeek Systems LLC.
VMware, Citrix, Microsoft Consultant
Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 8, 2008 12:29 PM
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Click to view DerekVS's profile Novice DerekVS 3 posts since
Apr 7, 2008
Thank you for the great recommendations. I downloaded VISBU and the free version of esXpress and will start testing with them to see which will work best for our situation. While VCB came with the ESX3.5 license, it seemed a bit over-kill for our environment.
Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 8, 2008 12:34 PM
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Click to view DerekVS's profile Novice DerekVS 3 posts since
Apr 7, 2008
Thanks for letting me know about OpenFiler. I played around with FreeNAS quite a bit, but it was too limited for my intended use.
Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 8, 2008 12:35 PM
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Click to view Dave.Mishchenko's profile Guru Dave.Mishchenko 8,436 posts since
Nov 15, 2005
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Hi Derek, with esxpress make sure to upgrade to 3.1.9.

Also note, the esXpress GUI is NOW functional with ESX 3.5 with the esXpress 3.1.9 release. To run the esXpress GUI using 3.5 you must upgrade to 3.1.9. In prior releases of esXpress the GUI does not work in 3.5.
Reply Re: Poor Man's ESX Backup Proposal Apr 8, 2008 1:31 PM
Click to view PhilipArnason's profile Enthusiast PhilipArnason 48 posts since
Jul 5, 2006

I would check out the VRANGER (or is it ESXRANGER) product from Vizioncore www.vizioncore.com. They are pretty cheap if you are looking to backup the entire image. I must ask though, how did you back up your machines before your virtualized them? Those same methods should continue to work.

Philip

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