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10 Replies Last post: Mar 31, 2009 12:53 PM by depping  

What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5? posted: Apr 2, 2008 8:40 PM

Click to view doctorttt's profile Enthusiast 93 posts since
Sep 15, 2007
Can someone tell me the difference between ESX 3.5 and ESXi 3.5?

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

1. Apr 2, 2008 9:27 PM in response to: doctorttt
Click to view java_cat33's profile Master 1,202 posts since
Aug 29, 2007

ESX 3.5 has a service console. ESXi does not have a service console, and has a far smaller footprint. You can now buy some servers from certain hardware vendors with ESXi (diskless).


Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

2. Apr 2, 2008 9:50 PM in response to: doctorttt
Click to view Dave.Mishchenko's profile Guru 8,948 posts since
Nov 15, 2005
The significant difference is the removal of the service console which is just a VM with special access to the vmkernel. That reduces the size of ESXi to under 32 MB so with the embedded version you can run it off a USB key. In many deployments you can eliminate any local storage in your servers and thus the risk of failure. Patching is also made much easier in that you'll just copy up a new boot image. ESXi has 2 boot partitions - primary and backup so patching will just be uploading the new image to the backup and then marking it as the primary.

In removing the service console which is Linux, you also reduce the security exposure and thus reduce the number of patches you will have to apply to the system.

The downside today is that ESXi doesn't support everything that 3.5 does - for example HA just has experimental support, jumbo frames aren't supported (I may be wrong on that). Actually here's the list of network features not supported - http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1003345

With the service console gone you also have to change the way you manage ESXi. A lot of management apps / backup apps / etc rely on the service console to work so today you have to find alternatives or wait for updates. Generally I thinks it's a bit harder to manage today but down the road as experience with it increases, the feature gaps with 3.5 close and more products support ESXi it will be much easier to deal with.

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

3. Apr 3, 2008 3:19 AM in response to: doctorttt
Click to view vrinda's profile Enthusiast 57 posts since
Dec 20, 2007
With the release of VMware ESX Server 3.5, also comes the release of VMware ESX 3i or ESXi 3.5 . 3i provides ESX without the service console and it gives you the ability to get ESX in the firmware from the major server manufacturers.It requires only 32 MB of free space for installation.

VMWare ESX server 3.5 comes with a service console and the space required for installation is similar to that of redhat enterprise linux 3.Here is the feature list for VMware ESX Server 3.5:

Expanded Storage options and support for SATA.
10GB Ethernet support & Infiniband TCP Segment Offload and Jumbo Frames
Hardware nested page tables
Paravirtualized Linux Guest operating systems
Support for Virtual Guests with 64GB of RAM and Physical hosts with 128GB of memory
VMware Storage VMotion
VMware Update Manager
VMware Distributed Power Management
VMware Guided Consolidation

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

4. Jul 28, 2008 3:21 PM in response to: java_cat33
Click to view Ajay Nabh's profile Enthusiast 95 posts since
Jun 5, 2008

Hi Guys

Thanks for the post. Please advice since there is no service console in ESXi, how can we manage ESXi using CLI/Linux as there are not lot of options availble in VC for management?

Thanks for any comments

Ajay Nabh

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

5. Jul 28, 2008 3:24 PM in response to: Ajay Nabh
Click to view Dave.Mishchenko's profile Guru 8,948 posts since
Nov 15, 2005
The RCLI that was released with ESXi 3.5 Update 2 includes more of the esxcfg* commands that would be found in the ESX 3.5 serivce console. Is that what you're wondering about?
Click to view Ajay Nabh's profile Enthusiast 95 posts since
Jun 5, 2008

Thanks Dave for your prompt reply. Can I make this statement safely that "you can run most of the commands and read logs in ESXi" If I want to learn more about it do I need to download mannuals for ESXi??

Thanks again

Ajay

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

7. Jul 28, 2008 4:58 PM in response to: Ajay Nabh
Click to view Dave.Mishchenko's profile Guru 8,948 posts since
Nov 15, 2005
Below are the commands from the latest RCLI. If you've using ESX scripting a fair bit you might consider this insufficient, but if you're new to ESX then the list is pretty sufficient. There are also a number of perl scripts included for managing hosts and VMs.

Do you have any specific scripting needs in mind?

esxcfg-vmhbadevs.pl vicfg-nics.pl
esxcfg-vmknic.pl vicfg-ntp.pl
esxcfg-advcfg.pl esxcfg-vswitch.pl vicfg-rescan.pl
esxcfg-cfgbackup.pl vicfg-route.pl
esxcfg-dns.pl EULA vicfg-snmp.pl
esxcfg-dumppart.pl EULA.rtf vicfg-syslog.pl
esxcfg-module.pl iconv.dll vicfg-user.pl
esxcfg-mpath.pl libxml2.dll vicfg-vmhbadevs.pl
esxcfg-nas.pl svmotion.pl vicfg-vmknic.pl
esxcfg-nics.pl vicfg-advcfg.pl vicfg-vswitch.pl
esxcfg-ntp.pl vicfg-cfgbackup.pl vifs.pl
esxcfg-rescan.pl vicfg-dns.pl vihostupdate.pl
esxcfg-route.pl vicfg-dumppart.pl vmkfstools.pl
esxcfg-snmp.pl vicfg-module.pl vmkuptime.pl
esxcfg-syslog.pl vicfg-mpath.pl vmware-cmd.pl
esxcfg-user.pl vicfg-nas.pl

Click to view Ajay Nabh's profile Enthusiast 95 posts since
Jun 5, 2008
Thanks Dave for your efforts

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

9. Mar 31, 2009 12:42 PM in response to: Ajay Nabh
Click to view satish.lx's profile Hot Shot 138 posts since
Nov 16, 2008
Anyone tell me about RCLI. what exactly RCLI ? its client utility which manager ESXi remotely ?

Re: What is the difference? ESXi 3.5 and ESX3.5?

10. Mar 31, 2009 12:53 PM in response to: satish.lx
Click to view depping's profile Champion 2,997 posts since
Jan 17, 2005
http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi3_35/esx_3/r35u2/vi3_35_25_u2_rcli.pdf

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