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CPU ready values posted: Mar 4, 2008 9:03 AM

Click to view Subatomic's profile Hot Shot 101 posts since
Jun 16, 2007

Hello All,

I was wondering what typical values for CPU ready should be for guests running under ESX server.

On a ESX 3.0.1 host we observe single digit, a low double digit values for Windows 2003 guest OSes. For Linux the CPU ready figures are into the hundreds of milliseconds.

Can my observations be simply explained by Linux accessing the hardware more "agressively" or is this possibly an issue?

Thanks

SA

Re: CPU ready values

1. Mar 4, 2008 9:10 AM in response to: Subatomic
Click to view ponpalani2001's profile Hot Shot 139 posts since
Jun 7, 2007

Hi,

% CPU Ready state value should be less than 5%.

Thanks

Re: CPU ready values

3. Mar 4, 2008 9:44 AM in response to: Subatomic
Click to view mcowger's profile Virtuoso 2,058 posts since
Aug 22, 2007

If you look at ESX top on the SC, its measured in %, if you look at it on the performance charts, its in milliseconds.

I would say anything over 200 ish ms is high.

--Matt

Re: CPU ready values

4. Mar 4, 2008 9:48 AM in response to: Subatomic
Click to view RParker's profile Champion 5,270 posts since
Dec 6, 2006

Just a guess, but your Windows Os are 1 CPU and your Linux Guests are 2 or 4 vCPU right?

That's why making additional CPU in a VM isn't a good idea, they aren't being used. This isn't a VM thing, this is the ability of VM to see this information outside the OS. Most machines even though many have 2 or 4 CPU doesn't mean the software is making good use of those processors, which is why you shouldn't give CPU's just for the sake of adding CPU.

Re: CPU ready values

6. Mar 4, 2008 10:02 AM in response to: Subatomic
Click to view RParker's profile Champion 5,270 posts since
Dec 6, 2006

Well the ready time isn't bad per se, it's just an indication that the processors are ready to do something, but they have nothing to do. You will see high ready times in multi CPU environments.. One processor is typically always busy, even when it's idle. There are always tasks to perform. but 2 of them, makes things a bit more difficult because 1 processor even in a perfect Multi threaded world isn't going to be busy, simply because the machine has to be idle sometime.

So READY times are just an indication of this. Your processor(s) are just in ready state, but they aren't doing any work. It's like hiring city workers, only one of them does the work, the rest just soak up the air :)

Re: CPU ready values

7. Mar 4, 2008 10:29 AM in response to: RParker
Click to view mcowger's profile Virtuoso 2,058 posts since
Aug 22, 2007

Thats not at all what ready time means. Not even close.

CPU Ready time, in ESX land, is the amount of time a VM was waiting to be serviced by a phsyical processor core. So, if you have a VM that wanted to do stuff, but had to wait 200ms to be scheduled onto a processor, it has 200ms of ready time. Its a sign of scheduling contention.

The rub comes when you have multi core VMs - regardless of the amount of CPU needed by the VM (lets say its a 4 core VM, and only needs 1 core worth of power), it needs to schedule onto 4 cores (because it is a 4 core VM). While it is scheduled onto 4 processor cores, nothign else can use them, even though that VM isn't really using all that they can do. So, when you have a lot of low usage VM's with 2 or 4 cores, you end up with problems scheduling them onto cores, and not so much the speed of the CPUs themselves. Hence, the need to watch your CPU Ready times.

So ready times ARE always bad, but its a matter of how bad. Waiting 1ms to be scheduled onto the physical CPUs isn't very long and so isn't very bad. Waiting 800ms to be scheduled is a long ass time, and ISvery bad.

--Matt

Re: CPU ready values

8. Mar 4, 2008 10:53 AM in response to: mcowger
Click to view RParker's profile Champion 5,270 posts since
Dec 6, 2006
CPU Ready time, in ESX land, is the amount of time a VM was waiting to be serviced by a phsyical processor core. So, if you have a VM that wanted to do stuff, but had to wait 200ms to be scheduled onto a processor, it has 200ms of ready time. Its a sign of scheduling contention.

To achieve best performance in a consolidated environment, you must consider ready time -

the time a virtual machine must wait in a ready-to-run state before it can be scheduled on a

CPU. This paper provides information to help you understand the factors that influence ready

time on an ESX Server 3.0 system


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Processor Utilization versus Ready Time

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The first test (Figure 1) shows how ready time changes with utilization. Six virtual machines were

running on the test server. All of them were pinned to a single CPU. Load was generated by the

CPU burner program run with a setting of approximately 15 percent, so that if it were the only

thing running, the virtual machine would consume close to 15 percent of the capacity of a

single CPU. Idle virtual machines also consumed some CPU capacity to perform guest operating

system maintenance tasks.

Re: CPU ready values

9. Mar 4, 2008 10:52 AM in response to: RParker
Click to view mcowger's profile Virtuoso 2,058 posts since
Aug 22, 2007

Re: CPU ready values

10. Mar 4, 2008 10:59 AM in response to: mcowger
Click to view RParker's profile Champion 5,270 posts since
Dec 6, 2006
yes sire!

I updated my response, sir!

Re: CPU ready values

11. Jun 26, 2008 2:13 AM in response to: mcowger
Click to view JonRoderick's profile Expert 441 posts since
May 24, 2007
Thanks Matt - a bit of clarity is all we need sometimes - too many people spouting off in here on occasion. Nice one.

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