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Keyboard, Mouse, Video, and Firewire peculiarities running Windows in Fusion posted: Dec 20, 2007 9:02 PM

Click to view uruiamme's profile Novice 24 posts since
Nov 26, 2007
I have several issues I would like to get resolved. I am still wet behind the ears with Mac and with Fusion, so bear with me. I have Fusion 1.1, Windows XP SP2 running in a boot camp partition. I usually run in Full Scren mode on my second monitor, which keeps Mac OS Leopard on my laptop screen.

  1. Control-Left Click is broken in my Fusion VM Windows. Instead of a CTRL-Left Click, the host sends a Right Click to the guest. This is aggravating when I am in Wiondows Explorer and I need to select perhaps 7 random files in a list of 40 files... This is easy in Windows... just hold down Control and select the ones I want.
  2. Is there any way to force Mac OS to use my Windows keystrokes for things? I have pasted with CTRL-V or SHIFT-INSERT for about ten years now. I am training myslef to learn new tricks, but ain't there a way to train my Leopard to +swap +the Control Key and Whatever-you-call-the-Windows-four-pointed-star-thing-on-my-Mac-Keyboards button which is a Windows key on my PC keyboard?
  3. What is the deal with the END key and the HOME keys which, um, don't do what I expect in Mac OS X???? (nothing to do with Fusion)
  4. Why does this forum have a silly way to catch my CTRL-V pastes? How dumb for a Mac Fusion forum. It doesn't work in Windows for me most of the time, anyway.
  5. Firewire hard drives: Broken in VMware Fusion 1.1. There is no place on the vmware menu to select FireWire hard drives like there is for USB drives. So when I connect my DVD burner or hard disk, it doesn't appear in my Windows VM correctly.
  6. The other major nag is the way multiple monitors are handled in general by Fusion. In short, they don't work too well. It's fine to have a single monitor for Windows, but when I start to use Unity mode it is worthless. I wish that Fusion would setup two monitor in my Windows VM so I could put my Start menu taskbar where I want it... but this doesn't work well as it is. So I stick to putting Windows on one screen amd Mac on the other.
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,197 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
uruiamme wrote:
# Control-Left Click is broken in my Fusion VM Windows. Instead of a CTRL-Left Click, the host sends a Right Click to the guest. This is aggravating when I am in Wiondows Explorer and I need to select perhaps 7 random files in a list of 40 files... This is easy in Windows... just hold down Control and select the ones I want.

This is designed-behavior, to disable Ctrl+Left click as right-click uncheck from VMware Fusion > Preferences > Enable Mac OS Mouse shortcuts

# Is there any way to force Mac OS to use my Windows keystrokes for things? I have pasted with CTRL-V or SHIFT-INSERT for about ten years now. I am training myslef to learn new tricks, but ain't there a way to train my Leopard to +swap +the Control Key and Whatever-you-call-the-Windows-four-pointed-star-thing-on-my-Mac-Keyboards button which is a Windows key on my PC keyboard?

You can either use Unity window mode which honors Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V for copy/paste or swap keys like you said: tip: swap option and command keys (or windows and alt keys) in VM

# What is the deal with the END key and the HOME keys which, um, don't do what I expect in Mac OS X???? (nothing to do with Fusion)

Yup, OS X thing.

# Why does this forum have a silly way to catch my CTRL-V pastes? How dumb for a Mac Fusion forum. It doesn't work in Windows for me most of the time, anyway.

This only happens in IE on Windows, AFAIK. I use Safari most of the time to post and it uses Plain Text composing. I can't stand the other modes being an old usenet, bbs, etc user. Web forums :P

# Firewire hard drives: Broken in VMware Fusion 1.1. There is no place on the vmware menu to select FireWire hard drives like there is for USB drives. So when I connect my DVD burner or hard disk, it doesn't appear in my Windows VM correctly.

No virtualization supports firewire devices directly in the guest OS. Fusion can let you access any mounted local disk (firewire, IDE, etc) using VMware Shared Folders or Windows/File Sharing. This allows you get at storage but no other firewire devices.

Firewire is more prevalent on the Mac, that's it has not been a past focus of x86-on-x86 virtualization. I have no idea about futures in this area. I can't see it coming frankly.

# The other major nag is the way multiple monitors are handled in general by Fusion. In short, they don't work too well. It's fine to have a single monitor for Windows, but when I start to use Unity mode it is worthless. I wish that Fusion would setup two monitor in my Windows VM so I could put my Start menu taskbar where I want it... but this doesn't work well as it is.

Known issue, VMware possibly working on multi-monitor support.
Click to view etung's profile Guru 11,086 posts since
Oct 15, 2006
# Control-Left Click is broken in my Fusion VM Windows. Instead of a CTRL-Left Click, the host sends a Right Click to the guest. This is aggravating when I am in Wiondows Explorer and I need to select perhaps 7 random files in a list of 40 files... This is easy in Windows... just hold down Control and select the ones I want.{quote}

This is designed-behavior, to disable Ctrl+Left click as right-click uncheck from VMware Fusion > Preferences > Enable Mac OS Mouse shortcuts


To expand on this a little more since the OP is new to Macs: You might have noticed that Macs come with single-button mice (even the mighty mouse defaults to a single button). Ctrl-click is the traditional Mac way of generating a right-click, and many users expect this, so that's what the default is.
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,197 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
etung wrote:
To expand on this a little more since the OP is new to Macs: You might have noticed that Macs come with single-button mice (even the mighty mouse defaults to a single button). Ctrl-click is the traditional Mac way of generating a right-click, and many users expect this, so that's what the default is.

Although I get the analogy, as a long time Mac user I 'context-switch' when I use Windows. :) I prefer the trackpad two finger tap-click for a native right click or the obscure Shift-F10 (context menu in Windows). Shift-F10 is focus or selection-sensitive so it's not a true "right-click" (based on the cursor) but it works when I need it too.
Click to view Bob Zimmerman's profile Hot Shot 259 posts since
Dec 22, 2006
uruiamme wrote:
Control-Left Click is broken in my Fusion VM Windows. Instead of a CTRL-Left Click, the host sends a Right Click to the guest. This is aggravating when I am in Wiondows Explorer and I need to select perhaps 7 random files in a list of 40 files... This is easy in Windows... just hold down Control and select the ones I want.

Others have already addressed this, so I'll skip it.

Is there any way to force Mac OS to use my Windows keystrokes for things? I have pasted with CTRL-V or SHIFT-INSERT for about ten years now. I am training myslef to learn new tricks, but ain't there a way to train my Leopard to +swap +the Control Key and Whatever-you-call-the-Windows-four-pointed-star-thing-on-my-Mac-Keyboards button which is a Windows key on my PC keyboard?

The "clover" is actually called the Command key. A lot of old software uses Control for other things, so Apple thought it best to make a key that specifically sends commands to the current application that it couldn't misinterpret. The idea was to let everything have a consistent chord for copy, paste and so forth while not breaking things that needed Control-C as a kill keystroke, for instance. Somehow, Photoshop and others still manage to get it wrong, but that is neither here nor there.

Anyway, there are some global preferences that let you remap keys on the Mac OS side of things. They're in the System Preferences > Keyboard and Mouse > Keyboard > Modifier Keys... dialog. You can even remap the Caps Lock key to be a Control key like on a proper keyboard! ;-)

Keep in mind that if you swap the Control and Command keys, you will need to use Command-C to kill things in the terminal. I'm not sure how this interacts with Fusion, but it would probably be best to leave Mac OS Keyboard Shortcuts active in the preferences.

What is the deal with the END key and the HOME keys which, um, don't do what I expect in Mac OS X???? (nothing to do with Fusion)

Most people coming from Windows don't know that the Mac has text editing key chords. To do what you're wanting to do with Home and End, you should use Control-Left and Control-Right. There is also Control-Up which is a page-up without moving the cursor. Same goes for Control-Down. Option-Left and Option-Right skip by word boundary in the specified direction. Option-Up and Option-Down jump by paragraph boundary. All of these can be combined with the Shift key for selection, so you can select a large swath of text, cut it from one place, navigate somewhere else precisely and quickly, then paste it there. When you get used to the key chords, it gets absurdly easy to never take your hands off of the keyboard when you're doing sophisticated editing.

Why does this forum have a silly way to catch my CTRL-V pastes? How dumb for a Mac Fusion forum. It doesn't work in Windows for me most of the time, anyway.

I haven't ever heard of this, but one of the other people here commented on it.

Firewire hard drives: Broken in VMware Fusion 1.1. There is no place on the vmware menu to select FireWire hard drives like there is for USB drives. So when I connect my DVD burner or hard disk, it doesn't appear in my Windows VM correctly.

I would kind of like to see this, too, but it may not be useful. Hardware virtualization is extremely high-latency, which is probably why USB audio devices don't seem to work. I would hate to think of how many coasters you'd get from lag spikes when you're trying to burn a disk.

The other major nag is the way multiple monitors are handled in general by Fusion. In short, they don't work too well. It's fine to have a single monitor for Windows, but when I start to use Unity mode it is worthless. I wish that Fusion would setup two monitor in my Windows VM so I could put my Start menu taskbar where I want it... but this doesn't work well as it is. So I stick to putting Windows on one screen amd Mac on the other.

That would probably be because Unity doesn't have support for multiple monitors. ;-)
Click to view etung's profile Guru 11,086 posts since
Oct 15, 2006
Although I get the analogy, as a long time Mac user I 'context-switch' when I use Windows. :) I prefer the trackpad two finger tap-click for a native right click or the obscure Shift-F10 (context menu in Windows). Shift-F10 is focus or selection-sensitive so it's not a true "right-click" (based on the cursor) but it works when I need it too.

I prefer the two-finger click as well, but I don't think we're even close to typical users :) The default is for longtime Mac users who haven't used windows before and don't know about other right-click methods.
Click to view wishingwell's profile Novice 11 posts since
Jan 20, 2008

What a disappointment not to have firewire support!

I understand Parallels has a provision for Guest OS support to access a Firewire Port.

Now, I'm wondering if I should have gotten Parallels instead of Fusion.

My high speed card reader attaches to the Mac Firewire port, but, without access to it and the ability to download my files or even browse them, my copy of Windows CS3 and Photoshop are completely useless!

Can anyone suggest any remedies?


Click to view etung's profile Guru 11,086 posts since
Oct 15, 2006
I understand Parallels has a provision for Guest OS support to access a Firewire Port.

I'd be interested to hear any evidence of this, especially official sources.
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,197 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
There isn't firewire mapping in Parallels 3.0 build 5584. You can however use shared folders on firewire, same as VMware Fusion. I have not looked at Parallels Server.
Click to view wishingwell's profile Novice 11 posts since
Jan 20, 2008

Sorry I have no idea how to " just map the drive to be like a shared network drive. So you might give it drive letter "X:" or "P:" for photos."

I'm a photographer, not a techie. I think Fusion should have firewire support.

Can you provide detailed instructions so I can try what you suggest?


Click to view wishingwell's profile Novice 11 posts since
Jan 20, 2008

Thank you for your reply.

I do remember seeing "map network drive", but I never knew how to use it.

I followed your directions and somehow managed to get one folder on both platforms, but I still get confused about where I am and can't see to duplicate my efforts, say if I wanted to add another shared folder.

I've also run into another snag. I don't know if you know about this or not.

I tried to set up a network with Windows so I could access the other computers on my LAN.

I used the standard Windows procedure to do this, but what appears is only the Mac shared folder and a Linux Ubuntu connection, not all the computers in my workgroup. I'm connected with something called a "NAT".

Can you explain what's happening from my description?


Click to view wishingwell's profile Novice 11 posts since
Jan 20, 2008
I've now downloaded Kaboodle. Thank you!
What a great way to see what you have on your network.

I'm running XP Pro in all my Windows machines, Ubunto and Fedora on others.
My network is a Windows print and file sharing network to connect computers and printers in my home/office.
There isn't a separate server.

I'm having trouble getting Fedora to connect to my LAN too. Internet connections work, but LAN doesn't in Fedora 8.
Everything is set up for NAT connections.

Using Kaboodle on the Windows side of my Mac, I still see only my shared Mac network file, a network printer and another file which says it is not part of my workgroup.
Kaboodle says the shared Mac network file is part of my workgroup, but doesn't show the other computers in the work group.

I hope you can follow my explanation.

What are your recommendations from here?

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