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16 Replies Last post: Aug 15, 2008 7:12 AM by Smitty23
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Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM

Jun 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Click to view frond's profile Novice frond 66 posts since
Oct 6, 2003

I've been testing HP's embedded version of ESXi and I have everything working with the exception of hardware monitoring. They've supposedly added CIM providers that can be accessed by SIM (wow, CIM/SIM, that's not confusing at all) but I can't find any way to add it to our SIM environment. HP seems to have provided no documentation of any kind regarding how to do it. I've attempted discovering the host but it doesn't return anything when I do. The release notes for SIM 5.2 Update 1 say that they've added support for ESXi but I've found no way to make it work.

Does anyone know what steps I need to follow to get hardware alert monitoring in SIM? I'm looking for what needs to be done on the ESXi side (if anything) and in SIM to make it work.

Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 6, 2008 12:45 PM
Click to view Dave.Mishchenko's profile Guru Dave.Mishchenko 8,436 posts since
Nov 15, 2005
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Essentially you'll need to enable SNMP on the ESXi host and you should get ESXi install image from HP as they have CIM extensions to monitor their hardware that I don't beleive is in the install image that you would get from VMware's site.

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/119672
http://communities.vmware.com/message/907919#907919
http://communities.vmware.com/message/937099#937099
Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 6, 2008 1:12 PM
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Click to view frond's profile Novice frond 66 posts since
Oct 6, 2003

Thanks for the reply, but I'd already found all of those threads and they still left me confused.

That one has to do with adding it to Dell's monitoring application so I didn't know much of it applied to SIM. In particular with all of the port numbers, etc. On the side of the monitoring tool, it only talked about Dell's utility, not HP SIM.

I also found a document from HP which has a section on ESXi that says:

The VMware ESXi architecture also removed the use of SNMP agents for management. Therefore, HP enhanced HP SIM and Insight Control Virtual Machine Management Pack to integrate with Common Information Model (CIM) providers. CIM providers are a method of acquiring management data that relies on the industry-standard and widely-accepted CIM. The older SNMP/MIB model is a less robust data model for server management, that is more difficult to build in security, and that often must be modified for each vendor’s equipment.
The VMware ESXi hypervisor is shipped on a USB key pre-installed in the internal USB port of the server. The server boots directly from the USB key, so new servers are ready to run ESXi straight out of the box, providing simplified installation and host configuration while ensuring system reliability through active ProLiant management.
The HP implementation of the VMware ESXi integrated hypervisor enables the following:
• Active hardware management. The CIM providers in HP SIM are pre-installed along with VMware ESXi on the USB key. They pro-actively surface data for monitoring server hardware, providing the most up-to-date server state information possible.

(The full document is here: http://bizsupport.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01067846/c01067846.pdf)

They specifically say that the SNMP/MIB model is not used so I assumed anything related to SNMP configuration was irrelevant.

Seems to be related to licensing, not to SIM.

The only additional stuff there was the reference guide which mentions the ports for CIM. Except that the guide lists a number of ports that are CIM related and it doesn't say which are used by HP or provide any guidance on how to open them. My understanding is that ESXi has no firewall to manage (and correspondingly there's no option for it in VC like there is for an ESX host) so that doesn't really help much. If there's a CIM provider there, then it should already be listening. As I mentioned, though, I attempted to discover the host with SIM and it found nothing.

This would be so much easier if HP would just put out a guide with steps 1-10 to add an ESXi host to SIM. Having to go seek out tiny puzzle pieces here and there is very frustrating.

Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 9, 2008 12:08 PM
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Click to view jgilmartin's profile Enthusiast jgilmartin 15 posts since
Jul 6, 2006
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With a recent update, the VMware ESXi Installable image with HP CIM providers is available for download from vmware.com for customers with valid entitlement.
Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 13, 2008 12:17 PM
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Click to view GPinson's profile Novice GPinson 14 posts since
Nov 21, 2005
jgilmartin wrote:With a recent update, the VMware ESXi Installable image with HP CIM providers is available for download from vmware.com for customers with valid entitlement.

Alright, I have this particular version downloaded and installed, what is required to enable the monitoring of these agents from CIM/SIM?

Do we just go through the normal proceedures for enabling SNMP, or is there something extra required for CIM/SIM to be able to connect?

Gene

Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 13, 2008 1:12 PM
in response to: GPinson
Click to view Charu's profile Enthusiast Charu 17 posts since
Jun 15, 2006
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The CIM Broker (component which provides the CIM information) is running by default, so there's no need to do anything special. All you need is a valid local account on the ESXi system with which to authenticate yourself (it doesn't have to be root --- you can create a special account for this purpose if you want.)

You just need to specify the URL for connecting to the host, which is https://<hostname>/wsman, when you connect using any CIM-based monitor.

You can use "WinRM" from MSFT if you just want to test it out. It is a simple, CLI-based tool which can be used to connect to a CIM-enabled host and print out what it receives.


Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 13, 2008 1:25 PM
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Click to view GPinson's profile Novice GPinson 14 posts since
Nov 21, 2005
Charu wrote:
The CIM Broker (component which provides the CIM information) is running by default, so there's no need to do anything special. All you need is a valid local account on the ESXi system with which to authenticate yourself (it doesn't have to be root --- you can create a special account for this purpose if you want.)

You just need to specify the URL for connecting to the host, which is https://<hostname>/wsman, when you connect using any CIM-based monitor.

You can use "WinRM" from MSFT if you just want to test it out. It is a simple, CLI-based tool which can be used to connect to a CIM-enabled host and print out what it receives.

Hmm... My HP SIM only lists connect via host name or ip address for discovery of a product. Wonder if I am running a version that is too old.

Gene

Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 13, 2008 2:36 PM
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Click to view GPinson's profile Novice GPinson 14 posts since
Nov 21, 2005
Well, looks like I need to upgrade. Currently running v5.0 of HP SIM, apparently need 5.2 Update 1.
Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 16, 2008 6:09 PM
in response to: Charu
Click to view GPinson's profile Novice GPinson 14 posts since
Nov 21, 2005
I must be missing something somewhere and it starting to become annoying.
When I add it initially to the SIM server, it just finds it as any basic device with an IP address. When I attempt to register the vmware linux host within SIM this is the error that I am getting

Running tool Enable Secure Communication with Linux Host with job id 290597.
Task Name :defRunNowTaskId_1213663127186_6
Job ID :290597
Tool Name :Enable Secure Communication with Linux Host
Job State :Complete
User Name :Domain\Admin
Execute As User :Firstname.Lastname
Start Time :Monday, June 16, 2008 6:38:47 PM MDT
End Time :Monday, June 16, 2008 6:38:47 PM MDT
Elapsed Time : 78 milliseconds
Node :simserver.domain.com
Status :Complete
Exit Code :255
STDOUT :
Enable Secure Communication with Linux Host 192.168.0.29
STDERR :
4.0 was unexpected at this time.

Running tool Run vmcli tool for register with job id 290598.
Task Name :defRunNowTaskId_1213663129217_7
Job ID :290598
Tool Name :Run vmcli tool for register
Job State :Complete
User Name :Domain\Admin
Execute As User :Firstname.Lastname
Start Time :Monday, June 16, 2008 6:38:49 PM MDT
End Time :Monday, June 16, 2008 6:44:56 PM MDT
Elapsed Time :6 minutes 6 seconds 852 milliseconds
Node :SIMserver.domain.com
Status :Complete
Exit Code :0
STDOUT :
Registering Agent on 10.2.0.29
Agent registration failed! - 10.2.0.29
An error occurred while registering agent 192.168.0.29. The error message is: The VMM agent cannot be connected..

Running tool Identify Systems with job id 290601.
Task Name :defRunNowTaskId_1213663497569_8
Job ID :290601
Tool Name :Identify Systems
Job State :Complete
User Name :Domain\Admin
Execute As User :Domain\Admin
Start Time :Monday, June 16, 2008 6:44:57 PM MDT
End Time :Monday, June 16, 2008 6:46:43 PM MDT
Elapsed Time :1 minute 45 seconds 362 milliseconds
Node :192.168.0.29
Status :Complete
Exit Code :0
STDOUT :
startId
idPluginStart.HttpPort
idPluginStart.HmmoLinks
smh.notsupported
idPluginStart.MxWBEMIdentifier
wbemidentifier.nosmiscimom
idPluginStart.MxWBEMRuleBasedIdentifier
wbem.csnotsupported
idPluginStart.MxVMHostIdentifier
wbem.vmnotsupported
idPluginStart.MxWSMANIdentifier
wsman.noresponse
idPluginStart.SnmpProto
snmp.noresponse
idPluginStart.CommonCluster
snmp.clusternotsupported
idPluginStart.SnmpProliant
snmp.notsupported
idPluginStart.SnmpNetserver
snmp.notsupported
idPluginStart.SnmpHPUX
snmp.notsupported
idPluginStart.SnmpSTM
snmp.notsupported
idPluginStart.DmiProto
dmi.nowindmi
idPluginStart.DmiSTM
dmi.nowindmi
idPluginStart.DmiHpUX
dmi.nohpuxdmi
idPluginStart.DmiCpq
dmi.nowindmi
idPluginStart.DmiHpMif
dmi.nohpdmi
idPluginStart.DmiGeneric
dmi.nogenericdmi
idPluginStart.MxSSHIdentifier
ssh.notsupported
idPluginStart.StorageIdentification
smi.notwbem
smi.stidentifdone
idPluginStart.IdentifyHPSGMembers
svcguard.wbem.notsupported
idPluginStart.IPMCompatible
iPMCompatible.failure
idPluginStart.VmHost
vmm.installed.isnothost
sysRelationship
limitedDc
limitedDcDone
noSMH
runDiagnosis
done
Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 18, 2008 11:07 AM
in response to: GPinson
Click to view Smitty23's profile Enthusiast Smitty23 40 posts since
Jun 5, 2008

In HPSIM, go to Discovery, then the Manual Tab. Add the server by IP, and bring down the advanced options. In there, you'll see a WEBEM properties page. Enter the root password there, leaving the port blank. This should get you more info.
Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 18, 2008 4:14 PM
in response to: Smitty23
Click to view GPinson's profile Novice GPinson 14 posts since
Nov 21, 2005
Yeah, I figured it out last night. Just wasn't drawing the correlation between CIM and WBEM.
Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jun 21, 2008 10:03 AM
in response to: jgilmartin
Click to view bradhs123's profile Enthusiast bradhs123 30 posts since
Jun 20, 2008

Hi jgilmartin,

Where do I get a HP version of ESXi? I am planning on migrating from VMware Server to ESXi on my DL380 G5. I need to be able to monitor my DL380 G5 just like I do now from Windows Server 2003 (currently the host)... I've been through so many forums, vmware.com, hp.com and wow, there is way too much information.

Can I just install the ESXi that I downloaded as a trial from vmware.com and install the necessary components for managing the DL380 G5 later? Or can you direct me to the HP version of ESXi? Also, I like the USB idea, but where are the instructions to accomplish this? I have an internal USB slot and can easily run it off the USB slot.

Thanks,

Bradley

Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jul 10, 2008 2:02 AM
in response to: bradhs123
Click to view lholling's profile Expert lholling 287 posts since
Apr 10, 2005
Just download the latest version of ESXi from VMware it has all of the needed components in it for HP Monitoring via SIM.

Leonard...

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Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jul 10, 2008 8:43 AM
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Click to view bradhs123's profile Enthusiast bradhs123 30 posts since
Jun 20, 2008

We still cannot monitor hard drives. Thats something that HP is working on and will have an answer it later builds. Here is exactly what they said.....

Hi Bradley,

About the question on how we can monitor the hard drives right now for VMware ESXi there is no utilities available from HP. It's schedule to develop monitoring tools for this OS but they still on the process, so far we don't have a date when this tools are going to be available. Normally these tools are the Proliant Support Pack and are a set of utilities and agents that monitor the status of the server.

Regards

........

Bradley

Reply Re: Unable to monitor ESXi with HP SIM Jul 10, 2008 3:24 PM
in response to: bradhs123
Click to view GPinson's profile Novice GPinson 14 posts since
Nov 21, 2005

Not sure, but isn't there a way to monitor via iLO2?

Gene

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