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Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro (& other) systems! posted: May 31, 2008 1:00 PM

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Fusion 2 beta 1 has caused several reboots, all (so far) during the boot-up process of guest systems (at varying times in the process, and regardless of type of guest OS) on 2 early 2008 Mac Pro systems we are testing on.
Both systems have (had) no problems with 1.1.2.
Crashes are immediate (no kernel panic), and the system reboots entirely, leaving little or no trace in the console log. Fusion is running on non-raided drive. VMs are on Raid 0 (OS provided) drive(s), but only ONE is started at a time (hence not the same as an earlier issues stated with Raid drives). We have upgraded both system from 10.5.2 to 10.5.3 and the problem remains, at about the same frequency.
Both system are Mac Pro 3.2Ghz (8 core) with 16GB Ram.
Tags: reboot, crash, panic, raid, beta

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

1. May 30, 2008 4:43 PM in response to: dosers
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ajbrehm
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May 8, 2008
Hi,

Same here on an iMac Core 2 Duo 2.16 GHz, 3 GB running Mac OS X 10.5.3.

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

2. May 30, 2008 5:05 PM in response to: ajbrehm
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dosers
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To answer you previous question (looks like you've edited it); yes, we did see this with 10.5.2. We only installed 10.5.3 (combo) on both systems yesterday. As far as we can tell, the frequency of this happening has NOT changed, that is, it occured with 10.5.2 and still does with 10.5.3, so seems independant of it. I also just got a report of it happening on a 3rd system; the notable difference being this system not using RAID 0 on it's VM drive.
All 3 systems had no problems with 1.1.2 (on 10.5.2 or earlier).

Dan

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

3. May 31, 2008 11:52 AM in response to: dosers
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Chuck.W
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Same issue here. Starting the the Windows Vista x64 VM occasionally causes reboots.

Running Fusion 2b1 on an early 2008 Mac Pro OS 10.5.3, happened with OS 10.5.2 as well. The VM is on a SATA drive all by itself (no raid).

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

4. May 31, 2008 12:59 PM in response to: Chuck.W
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dosers
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Jan 29, 2008
Chuck,
thanks for posting.

While apparently not universal, this does seem to be a 'common' problem then in the beta, across hardware.

VMware ?! :)

d

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

5. May 31, 2008 1:12 PM in response to: dosers
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Hexed
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Apr 23, 2008
I am running a MAC Pro with 10.5.2 and WinXP 32 bit on 6 screens in unity mode and have had no real problems. I guess I won't upgrade to 10.5.3 anytime soon.
Rob

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

6. May 31, 2008 1:39 PM in response to: Hexed
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dosers
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Hexed,
I think you are just 'lucky', or we haven't found the reason why this reboot occurs on our systems (and the other posters on this board) versus yours.
But 10.5.3 does NOT appear to be the culprit, as the issues occurred, in about the same frequency with 10.5.2 as well as after upgrading to 10.5.3!

We have no problems with 10.5.3 per se.

Cheer
D

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

7. May 31, 2008 3:06 PM in response to: dosers
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Hexed
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Apr 23, 2008
Is it possible that the people having crashes are all running 64bit guests? Just curious.
Also, I have only tried to run a single VM so far on this beta.

Update: I don't know if this will help anyone but here is more about my configuration.
Early model Mac Pro with 2 quad core 2.66GHz processors and 16GB memory
3 Nvidia 7300GT video cards with 256MB ram each and 6 monitors attached.
Running a single vm with WinXP32 guest OS on the OS X system drive.

I have started and exited Fusion a few times, and rebooted the guest OS a few times. I have used the guest in unity mode across all 6 screens but have not tried to play with Spaces. I have NOT rebooted OS X since prior to upgrading from the latest production version of Fusion to the beta.

Still no crashes.
From Hardware over view:Hardware Overview:

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro1,1
Processor Name: Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Bus Speed: 1.33 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP11.005C.B08
SMC Version: 1.7f10

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro (& other) systems!

8. May 31, 2008 2:47 PM in response to: dosers
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drakino
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May 4, 2008
Same issue here, machine just hard resets when starting to boot Vista SP1 64 bit off a second hard drive in an early 2008 Mac Pro. 6GB RAM, 8800 GT here, with 10.5.3 and all the firmware updates applied as of 5/31.

Attached is the VMWare log running in debug mode when it happened. With the harshness of the restart, I'm not sure this is everything though. Also a second attachment from console app set to show all messages around that time. Note the restart happened around 12:59:24ish, the 13:00 entry is when the machine was rebooting back into OS X.
Attachments:

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro (& other) systems!

9. May 31, 2008 2:49 PM in response to: drakino
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drakino
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May 4, 2008
Dup post, was having attachment issues, looks like .log isn't accepted, renamed to .txt and attached to prior post.

Message was edited by: drakino

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10. May 31, 2008 3:01 PM in response to: Hexed
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dosers
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Hm... interesting thought.
In our case, yes, so far this has happened when starting 64bit guest only (Windows Vista, Solaris, Fedora). We have XP 32bit, I'll test that to see if it occurs there as well.....

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

11. May 31, 2008 8:56 PM in response to: dosers
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Hexed
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Apr 23, 2008
An luck switching to 32bit guest?

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

12. May 31, 2008 11:29 PM in response to: Hexed
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MountainBrook
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May 31, 2008
It happened to me when I tried to start windows XP and Ubuntu 64-bit. In both cases I had entourage running and I thought that it was contributing to the reboot but I wasn't able to reproduce it.

I have a mac pro (early 2008) running OSX 10.5.3

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

13. Jun 3, 2008 4:05 PM in response to: MountainBrook
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I_C
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Jun 3, 2008
I too experience the spontaneous reboots on a mac pro. I am able to reproduce it on my mac pro running 10.5.3. If I put my mac to sleep then wake it and attempt to power on any 64-bit windows guest I get an spontaneous reboot. 32-bit guests seem to work fine.

The only things I can find in the logs are:


Jun 3 18:36:42 Opus /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd212: Forcing deep traversal on source: "Macintosh HD" (mount: '/' fsUUID: 5DDFC7BF-4D3B-32AC-B8A6-2C6765B391CB eventDBUUID: 940FB2B6-6E6A-440E-89F2-245A579E9746), {1, 1, 1, 0}
Jun 3 18:36:42 Opus /System/Library/CoreServices/backupd212: Node requires deep traversal:/ reason:kFSEDBEventFlagMustScanSubDirs|kFSEDBEventFlagReasonForceDeepBackup|
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: offset 0: 44
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: offset 1: 12
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: offset 2: 24
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: offset 3: 28
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: offset 4: 40
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: PTSC: initialized at 2793448000 Hz using reference clock
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: INTELRDMvvvSmmmmRmom(on: 0xon: INTELRDMSR(0x8b) = 0x0000n:INTEL 060b00IR8000000
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: DMSR(Nvb0)mTx8b) = 0x0000060b00000000
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: mon: INTELRDMSR(0x17) = 0x0E0 vmmon: INTELRDMSR(0x17) = 0x0018000088640720
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: 18000088640720
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: = 0x0000060b00000000
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: LRDMSR(0x8b) = 0x0000060b00000000
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: INTELRDMSR(0x17) = 0x0018000088640720
Jun 3 18:36:50: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Jun 3 18:36:50 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: Warning: XXXMACOS: Implement ioctl APIC_BASE
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmci: Open socket 0x6fea444.
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: Cycles 0x00000000000000E7
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VNetUserIf_Create: created userIf at 0x85bbe00.
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VMNetConnect: returning port 0x85bbe00
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: bridge-en0: enabled promiscuous mode
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VMNET_SO_BINDTOHUB: port: paddr 00:50:56:f5:7c:47
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Hub 0
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Port 0
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Port 1
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VNetUserIf_Create: created userIf at 0x85bba00.
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VMNetConnect: returning port 0x85bba00
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VMNET_SO_BINDTOHUB: port: paddr 00:50:56:f8:42:1f
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Hub 0
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Port 0
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Port 1
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: Port 2
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmnet: VNetUserIfFree: freeing userIf at 0x85bba00.
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: host clock rate change request 0 -> 19
Jun 3 18:36:51 Opus kernel[0]: vmmon: host clock rate change request 19 -> 83 <---- here is where the reboot happens im assuming.


Jun 3 18:37:10 localhost com.apple.launchctl.System[2]: fsck_hfs: Volume is journaled. No checking performed.
Jun 3 18:37:10 localhost com.apple.launchctl.System[2]: fsck_hfs: Use the -f option to force checking.


Directory service logs:
2008-05-30 19:29:59 EDT - T0xA01ADFA0 - Improper shutdown detected
2008-06-01 16:48:00 EDT - T0xA01ADFA0 - Improper shutdown detected
2008-06-02 19:11:02 EDT - T0xA01ADFA0 - Improper shutdown detected
2008-06-03 18:32:36 EDT - T0xA01ADFA0 - Improper shutdown detected
2008-06-03 18:37:14 EDT - T0xA01ADFA0 - Improper shutdown detected

Re: Fusion 2b1 causing spontaneous reboots (no kernel panic) on Mac Pro systems!

14. Jun 3, 2008 4:53 PM in response to: I_C
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I_C wrote:
I too experience the spontaneous reboots on a mac pro. I am able to reproduce it on my mac pro running 10.5.3. If I put my mac to sleep then wake it and attempt to power on any 64-bit windows guest I get an spontaneous reboot. 32-bit guests seem to work fine.

Interesting that you mentioned this. I suspected I might be getting the spontaneous reboots after waking my Mac Pro from sleep then starting my 64-bit Vista VM - but I was not sufficiently sure of this that I was ready to report it as a potential relationship. Interestingly, I just had awakened my Mac from sleep immediately prior reading your message. So, I started Fusion 2b1 right away and attempted to power on my VM; and sure enough, a spontaneous reboot!
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