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Re: Newbie 3i Console/Management Question

15. Apr 7, 2008 9:27 AM in response to: jgilmartin
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Apr 7, 2008
John -

Thank you for such a clear answer.

Could you answer one other question. I am looking at a HP server that has the integrated ESX 3i (Stand Alone) option. Basically - it appears to just be the OS on a USB stick inside the server. If I purchase that then I will still need the Foundation Acceleration Kit (bundle) to get all my features. Looks like I am buying ESX twice then. There is an option for the ESX 3i Enterprise but that is way out of my price range or needs.

Looks like if I want to go ESX 3i - then I need to install to the hard drive just like the ESX Infrstructure on my other server. I liked the idea of the stripped down OS and seperate from the RAID array (local storage not SAN). Would I just be better off suing the full blown product then?

Any idea if you can mount you own USB flash drive inside the server. I have seen the documentation people have down on creating their own USB boot devices but I do not want the boot device accessible ont he outside of the server.

Final question - sorry, these are more HP specific, anyone know if I lose HP functionality by using the stock software directly from VMWare? Integration into SIM or can that be added?

Thanks again,

Scott

Re: Newbie 3i Console/Management Question

16. Apr 7, 2008 9:46 AM in response to: Scott@68
Click to view jgilmartin's profile Enthusiast 15 posts since
Jul 6, 2006

Scott,

Yes, HP is not currently offering the VI Foundation license with their ESXi option kit. However, I believe they have an unlicensed option kit available as well. That is, you buy essentially a media kit (USB key with software, documentation, etc) along with your server, but there is no VI license. Then you can buy the VI Foundation Acceleration kit separately (also available from HP, I believe) which gives you the licenses. I can verify this.

The USB kit in the HP option kit do mount internally on the motherboard. HP has internal USB connections on all the qualified servers.

The HP image of ESXi does have customizations around CIM (Common Information Model) which will give you HP-specific hardware management info.

John

Re: Newbie 3i Console/Management Question

17. Apr 7, 2008 10:06 AM in response to: jgilmartin
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Apr 7, 2008
John -

Thanks again, no need to look any further for info. That is enough info to get back to my HP Reseller with. They are fabulous with SKU's but it seems not many vendors understand the hooks in the licensing models.

Thanks - you have been enormously helpful!

Scott

Re: Newbie 3i Console/Management Question

18. Apr 7, 2008 10:41 AM in response to: jgilmartin
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Apr 7, 2008
John -

Sorry - need to ask this one as well. I did find the Media Kit you refereed to but it mentions it is for the ELA (Enterprise License Agreements). Any idea if this would work with the Foundation License and only activate those pieces I am licensed for with the Foundation License? If so that is the ideal solution for me.

HP integrated VMware ESX Server 3i ELA Unlicensed
NOTE: For customers with existing Enterprise License Agreements. Sold factory installed only. HP image shipped on USB key, pre-installed on internal USB port of the server. HP image incorporates HP Systems Insight Manager providers.

Hopefully - that will be the last question.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: Newbie 3i Console/Management Question

19. Apr 7, 2008 12:58 PM in response to: Scott@68
Click to view jgilmartin's profile Enthusiast 15 posts since
Jul 6, 2006

Scott,

The reason it is listed as "ELA" is because it is targeted to that audience (i.e., companies that have existing licenses already and don't want to buy a new one). In reality, this is just an unlicensed version of ESXi. You can apply any license you want against it (e.g. Foundation, Standard, or Enterprise). So, yes, this is the SKU to buy if you want ESXi to run on internal USB on your HP server and you plan to separately procure your license(s).

John

Re: Newbie 3i Console/Management Question

20. Apr 7, 2008 1:05 PM in response to: jgilmartin
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Apr 7, 2008
John,

Thanks yet again ,

No more question (really this time).

Thank you,

Scott

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