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Re: Bridged networking just quit!

330. Mar 28, 2008 9:45 AM in response to: jblachowski
Click to view COS's profile Expert 694 posts since
Dec 12, 2005
That about sums it up when it comes to their desire to fix this problem/bug. You know, when they want to sell you something they'll come to your site and do a dog and pony show but when something like this happens.......NOTHING. You would at least think that they would send someone to one of the many thousands of customers sites that are having this problem, but nooooooo. Even if you do purchase support they'll do exactly as you stated. I have experienced this problem on HP hardware, Supermicro, ASUS, TYAN and IBM. The versions were 1.00, 1.01, 1.02 and 1.04. All versions had the same issue. What did we do to fix this? We purchased ESX 3.5 for our few x86 servers and went to HP Integrity Virtual Server for HP UX 11iv2 for 64 bit support on SQL virtual servers.
Personally I don't think they're really trying to duplicate the problem. Most likely they're copying a 1GB .vob file from one place to another and say it's fine. We've seen it during heavy backups and copying many large files simultaneously even without having Veritas installed.

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

331. Mar 28, 2008 10:41 AM in response to: COS
Click to view Creator620's profile Novice 13 posts since
Feb 29, 2008

I have version 1.0.5 installed, I installed it as soon as it came out.

So far I have not had a single disconnect. with version 1.0.4 I could force a disconnect almost at will by copying a pair of 4GB zip files containing randon data to a vm simultaneously.

I should however warn everyone that I had an unexplained system crash on my vmware server host machine this week. nothing logged, it just powered off and rebooted. Everything resumed normal operation after the reboot.

Hopefully this isn't becase of the vmware software. Host machine is an HP DL580 G5 and is only 2 months old

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

332. Mar 28, 2008 2:26 PM in response to: Creator620
Click to view mikem2002's profile Novice 43 posts since
Sep 26, 2005

Well, let's not be too hasty in moving to MS Virtual Server. Checkout the topic at Microsoft's newsgroup, microsoft.public.virtualserver, from two days ago titled "VS 2005 Dropping Network Connections Randomly"


Re: Bridged networking just quit!

333. Mar 31, 2008 5:04 PM in response to: mikem2002
Click to view jmandawg's profile Novice 8 posts since
Jul 12, 2006
Well, i upgraded to 1.0.5 in hopes of it fixing the problem. Unfortunately the problem still exists. Time to move on. Thanks for the good times vmware, unfortunatley i cannot run a small personal webserver without a working network adapter.

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

334. Apr 1, 2008 8:14 AM in response to: jmandawg
Click to view rage1605's profile Novice 5 posts since
Apr 1, 2008

Just to make this more interesting, I am using Windows 2003 x64, R2, SP2 as the host, I have two guests on this machine, both Windows 2003 x64 R2 SP2 and only one is having this problem. However, I did not have this problem until I went to 1.0.5!!!!

Everything has been humming along just wonderfully until I upgraded and then all of the sudden this one VM just loses all network connection....though it believes it's still connected because I never see any errors in the event logs (besides w32 not being able to reach a server).

Does ANYONE have any idea what can be causing this? I am not looking forward to opening a ticket to resolve this issue since a few people have had their tickets open for 5+ months with VMware on this isssue. It figures, when EMC buys a company they completely destroy it.

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

335. Apr 1, 2008 2:10 PM in response to: jblachowski
Click to view TimAlsop's profile Enthusiast 30 posts since
Jan 3, 2007

Hi,

I have same problem with VMware Server 1.0.5. However, I have something which I haven't seen mentioned in this forum so far.

Initially I built my Dell PowerEdge 2950 (2 x quad core etc.) with Windows Server 2003 x64 and installed VMware 2 Beta 1. I had some fun with Beta 1 of VMware Server and since Beta 2 was due soon I waited and upgraded this last weekend. The problem I had with Beta 1 and Beta 2 are the same, and they relate to this issue being discussed, but I got slightly different results. With VMware Server 2 Beta 1 and 2, when the guest decides to stop networking, it does so for only a minute or two and then networking is restored to the guest, then the guest runs for a few more minutes and then it might stop networking again for a short while, and then run for many minutes before it happens again, etc. etc. Anyway, today I decided to uninstall Beta 2 and try 1.0.5 instead. Now, my guest works for a few minutes, and then networking stops and networking does not return until my system is restarted.

I wondered if anybody was able to install VMware Server Beta 2 and see if they get any results like mine ?

Thanks,

Tim

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

336. Apr 2, 2008 12:30 PM in response to: SrMarcos
Click to view TimAlsop's profile Enthusiast 30 posts since
Jan 3, 2007

I had this problem on my Dell PowerEdge 2950, and I noticed in vmware.log file for some of the guest systems that there were messages/errors related to CDROM. I disabled the CDROM on the VM guest config, and the problem has not occured since. I think there must be some sort of issue with CDROM on a Dell PowerEdge 2950 that is causing some sort of I/O issue. I spent ages thinking it was due to network card drivers, but it seems it was caused by something different. I hope others are able to fix this problem the same way ?

I also had same problem on VMware Server 2 Beta 2, but it didn't occur as often, so maybe VMware Server 2 Beta 2 has some CDROM driver improvements, but not quite enough :-)

Good luck.

Tim

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

337. Apr 2, 2008 1:03 PM in response to: TimAlsop
Click to view andybei's profile Novice 44 posts since
Oct 25, 2007
Hi Tim,

I have removed CDROM's from my guests and still experience the issue.


We're on page 23 now, I think it's a good time for a recap of solutions to various issues discussed in this thread:


1. Disable RSS
2. Disable Offloading
3. Check on Port-Security on your switch port


If after applying the above you still experience network loss, then unfortunatly you are in the same boat as the rest of us.


Good luck!


Andy

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

338. Apr 2, 2008 1:08 PM in response to: andybei
Click to view cbak999's profile Novice 16 posts since
Feb 8, 2008
I can't remember if that has been said or not in the 27 pages....but since going back to a single proc on my 64-bit guest, the networking has not bombed since....it's been about 30 days. It used to fail almost nightly during across-the-wire backup.
CB

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

339. Apr 3, 2008 12:35 AM in response to: cbak999
Click to view Marc Desmedt's profile Novice 28 posts since
Nov 28, 2007

hmm, I have not tried using only one processor, instead of two cpu cors per Guest VMware machine.

Anyone else tried that with good results ? Basically I can reproduce this dreaded error quite easely, just perform a heavy file transfer via network en boom!

I do not have CDROM's in my Guest machines, though I can confirm that on some servers leaving the CDROM in place on your VM will cause severe VMware issues.

Before I disabled CDROM's, I had massive freezes, I/O instability, etc. Though the "network bridge error" remains dispite trying every single (good) suggestion on this thread.

About time we see some sort of official response, I don's see how VMware can not reproduce this thing when thousands of people have this very issue...

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

340. Apr 3, 2008 2:42 AM in response to: Marc Desmedt
Click to view TimAlsop's profile Enthusiast 30 posts since
Jan 3, 2007

Marc,

It is good to know that CDROM was causing similar issues for you.

Regarding the single CPU. I was told a few years ago that VMware products don't support more than one CPU very well, so it is better to have multiple CPU's in host and configure the guest to use one CPU than to make the guest think it has access to more than one CPU. I have therefore always configured guest systems with one CPU, even though there is an option for more.

It looks as though the issues described in this thread are caused by more than one issue - e.g. cdrom, number of cpu's.

One thing I also did recently, but not sure if it helped, was to upgrade the network card driver using latest download from Dell website. Even though I only received the server a couple of weeks ago and it came with drivers installed there were more uptodate drivers on the Dell website ...

Thanks,

Tim

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

341. Apr 3, 2008 7:38 AM in response to: TimAlsop
Click to view ilopezc's profile Lurker 5 posts since
Jan 29, 2008
What dell machine was this for and can you provide a link?

-IL

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

342. Apr 3, 2008 7:57 AM in response to: ilopezc
Click to view TimAlsop's profile Enthusiast 30 posts since
Jan 3, 2007

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

343. Apr 4, 2008 12:29 AM in response to: SrMarcos
Click to view Sk8rCai's profile Lurker 2 posts since
Apr 4, 2008
Hello All,

This might be a tad long, so pelase bear with me.
We have been experiencing the same Bridged network problem as the comments in this post have suggested and yesterday we seemed to have solved this problem. Your mileage may vary, so this might not work for everyone, but I havent seen anyone cover this in the post, so it might be worth a go.

Just to clarify this is what was happening...

We have an IBM Blade Center (E series) running several HS20 and HS21 blades. We recently decided to trial Virtualisation and selected VMWare Server for this trial. We installed VMWare Server (1.0.5) onto our Blade HS20 running W2k3 and installed a W2k3 Guest and later a W2k Pro guest. Once we started trying to use the network we experienced problems. When first powering up a guest OS we would get brief network connectivity then after about two minutes the network connection would drop out.
We could ping between the guest and host, but not from the guest to the rest of our network or vice-versa.
We tried a number of solutions; all mentioend here (altering the registry on both the host and guest, updating drivers, trying all manner of stuff)

After much agro we determined that it might be best to setup another machine under Linux and try this. We had a new Blade just delivered and installed SUSE 10.3 as the host and installed the VMWare Server 1.0.5 again. We installed the same guest OS's and this time we had no problems what-so-ever. At this stage we purchase paid support from VmWare and logged out Windows Host problem with them.
After a day with no problem we believed the problem to be with Windows and after really liking SUSE and not hearing anythign from VMWare, inspite of logging the call as a Severity One, we took the decision to format the server and reinstall.
We installed SUSE 10.3 again and followed the same procedure to install VmWare Server 1.0.5 as before, this time, moving the working Guest installations to this new Guest server.
To our supprise the network problem reappeared. After about five minutes of head scratch we thought we had it figured.
The blades were all using Broadcom NetXtreme II cards, and at first I thought the new blade might have something different in it, but it was the same card. However what was different was the firmware version.
We checked our versios of the Blades we currently have against the latest downloads at IBM and found some new versions which seemed to match the new HS21.

After flashing the firmware of the Broadcom the problem appears to have been resolved. I've been runnign the server overnight and we have had 100% uptime throughout the night.

I'd though it's share this as I hadnt seen this mentioned and we saw that IBM was releasing a new firmware updater only a few days ago. I woudl encourage everyone to check their vendors download page for a new firmware revision of their Broadcom Network cards and indeed, while you're at it, the BIOS as well.

Hope this resolves the issue for everyone, again I fully expect that this wont solve everyones problem,but hopefully it might solve a few.

Regards,

Cai & Gav

Re: Bridged networking just quit!

344. Apr 4, 2008 2:23 AM in response to: Sk8rCai
Click to view TimAlsop's profile Enthusiast 30 posts since
Jan 3, 2007

Cai and Gav,

Thankyou for this information. Although I have a Dell PowerEdge 2950, the same network cards are used. I suspect that Broadcom Gigabit adapters are common on modern servers, and this might be why so many people are getting the problem.

Would it be possible for you to mention the exact firmware version which you are using now, and what you were using before when you experienced the problem ?

Thanks,

Tim

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