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Reply Re: Netbackup or Backupexec Oct 15, 2007 8:03 AM
in response to: beckhamk
Click to view petedr's profile Master petedr 1,236 posts since
Mar 18, 2006

hey beckhamk,

I work for the company that developed esXpress and I just wanted to mention that in our new version that Erik is working with esXpress now does File Level Backups. What we do is at the same time we create the image backup we will create a seperate backup archive for the folders/files you defined to us to for file level backups. With the seperate archive on a restore you don't have to go to the image backup, you have the file level backups seperately.

Pete@esxpress


Reply Re: Netbackup or Backupexec Oct 15, 2007 8:30 AM
in response to: petedr
Click to view beckhamk's profile Hot Shot beckhamk 225 posts since
Aug 10, 2007

Does your solution use the full image backup and then allow restored from that? Or are we still doing file level backups. We would like a solution (I believe vranger does this) that lets you take an image and the restore files for restore from the image. Image level backups are faster then file by file level backups. This is simular to how R1Soft's linux/windows backup agents work (not a vmware thing)
Reply Re: Netbackup or Backupexec Oct 15, 2007 9:18 AM
in response to: beckhamk
Click to view petedr's profile Master petedr 1,236 posts since
Mar 18, 2006
What esxpress is doing is taking the file level and image backups at the same time ( there is no agent running on your VM for file level, it is part of the hot image level backup ). But the end result is two backup archives being created, one is the VM image ( full or delta ) and other the file level achive.

With esXpress if you just do image backups then what some people are doing is keeping a helper VM available and then attaching the restored disk to to access the files.


The best thing for you would be to evaluate the different solutions to determine what works best for you.

pete@esxpress

Reply Re: Netbackup or Backupexec Oct 16, 2007 6:14 PM
in response to: Erik Zandboer
Click to view madliv's profile Novice madliv 12 posts since
Aug 14, 2006

Are you using seperate nics to FTP the data off of the ESX server, and if not are you seeing any significant slowdowns. I worry about my I/O shutting down when I try to do to many large backups from the ESX server.
Reply Re: Netbackup or Backupexec Oct 16, 2007 11:36 PM
in response to: madliv
Click to view Erik Zandboer's profile Expert Erik Zandboer 452 posts since
Jun 11, 2007

Hi,

I am not using separate NICs. Backups take place at night, when my servers are pretty much idle. The neat thing about esXpress is, that you actually CAN use separate NICs, and also that you can throttle the transfers. You can even specify to throttle only during business hours (and go full bandwidth outside of that window). If bandwidth is your problem, you might consider to backup to VMFS. No network loaded there.

I do see service console activity when backups run. It is not anything really shocking though. And even if there is a lot of activity, the service console is always restricted to CORE0, and you can manage the number of VBA (backup appliances) you run on each host. So your ESX hosts should do fine. Load more, get more... Because esXpress runs on each host, load is nicely spread throughout your environment. That is how they manage to get these wildly high backup rates. Divide and conquer B-)

All this stuff available in esXpress... And no, I don't work for them. Just charmed by the product :x

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