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92 Replies Last post: Jan 5, 2009 9:55 PM by etung
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vdiskmanager GUI

Jun 9, 2007 10:55 PM

Click to view etung's profile Guru etung 9,605 posts since
Oct 15, 2006
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For users who don't want to mess with the command line, I wrote a quick-n-dirty GUI wrapper for vmware-vdiskmanager in the spirit of RDPetruska's VMware DiskManager GUI.

This program allows you to create a new virtual disk, expand an existing virtual disk, or defragment an existing virtual disk.
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Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 8:21 AM
Click to view Pat Lee's profile Master Pat Lee 1,076 posts since
Jan 3, 2007
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Eric,

This is great, thanks for making this happen.

Pat Lee
Senior Product Manager - Mac Products
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Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 8:32 AM
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Click to view Obeechi's profile Hot Shot Obeechi 418 posts since
Jan 25, 2007
Well.. is the goal to use iDefrag, and Diskeeper, and vdiskmanager to defrag.. all together in some set order, where maybe even iDefrag is run at the tail-beginning and the tail-end et ...

Or, is vdiskmanger only meant for vdisk's and not for boot camp partitions...
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 8:40 AM
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Click to view Pat Lee's profile Master Pat Lee 1,076 posts since
Jan 3, 2007
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In looking at what Eric posted, this is graphical interface for our command line tools that ONLY work with virtual disks. Boot Camp disks need not apply.

Thanks again to Eric for making a nice tool for Fusion users!

Pat
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 10:13 AM
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Click to view Obeechi's profile Hot Shot Obeechi 418 posts since
Jan 25, 2007
Okay... so does this mean I should just use Diskeeper for the Boot Camp partition, and for the vdisk, use just iDefrag and vdiskmanager GUI and not Diskeeper...

I have Vista in both Boot Camp and also in a vdisk.. which is not preallocated...
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 10:24 AM
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Click to view adamsimpson's profile Enthusiast adamsimpson 35 posts since
Apr 12, 2007
If we are using a pre allocated vdisk is there any benefit of using vdiskmanager over the regular windows defragger?
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 10:36 AM
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Click to view Pat Lee's profile Master Pat Lee 1,076 posts since
Jan 3, 2007
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As Eric said in the tip in his tools, I believe that the order to do any defragmentation of virtual disks is:

1) Defrag the files inside the guest using the tools supplied by the guest OS or third party tools
2) Then use the VMware Tools or even easier with Eric's graphical tools
3) Defrag the VMDK files using Mac defragmentation tools if necessary

If you are a pre-allocated virtual disk taking the entire space up front, I believe that you just use the guest tools and then Host OS tools if necessary.

If you are using a raw disk (Boot Camp), you should use the defragmentation utilities from Windows or other guest inside the VM.

Hope that helps.
Pat
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 10:50 AM
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Click to view Obeechi's profile Hot Shot Obeechi 418 posts since
Jan 25, 2007
Someone else was advocating defragging the Mac before using diskeeper (or defragging the guest)

You're placing Mac defragging as the last step, but with respect to VMDK files.. and I've only seen idefrag give me the option to defrag the entire disk (not sure what the selection with cursor/grabber really does)

So if I combine the two advocations (yes, advocations), it'd become, for a not-pre-allocated vdisk,

1. Defrag the host
2. Defrag the guest
3. Defrag with Eric's Tool
4. Defrag the host

Preallocating removes the need to use Eric's Tool; and using Boot Camp removes the need to use both Erics's Tool and one of the two stages of Defragging the host (though you'll need to defrag the host irregardless)
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 12:18 PM
Click to view manfredell's profile Enthusiast manfredell 142 posts since
Dec 23, 2006
THANKS A LOT! This should have come (perhaps it will) with Fusion from the start.
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 12:42 PM
Click to view DaveP's profile Master DaveP 1,360 posts since
Aug 30, 2003
Brilliant. Thanks!
Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 10, 2007 6:35 PM
Click to view bgarner's profile Enthusiast bgarner 74 posts since
Apr 26, 2005
Thanks etung!
After walking a few people through disk expansion on the phone I was about to fire up applescript studio myself.

Blake-
Reply New version: 0.2007.06.18 Jun 18, 2007 7:41 PM
Click to view etung's profile Guru etung 9,605 posts since
Oct 15, 2006
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Changes:
* Improve logging
* Added Convert action
* Added missing Edit menu, removed extraneous Help menu
* Mock-up of Raw Disk action (does not yet work)
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Reply Re: vdiskmanager GUI Jun 21, 2007 6:31 PM
Click to view fox_michael2's profile Enthusiast fox_michael2 33 posts since
Apr 18, 2005
Nice work.
Reply Re: New version: 0.2007.06.18 Jun 25, 2007 1:01 PM
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Click to view piebas's profile Novice piebas 13 posts since
Apr 15, 2007
What dus de covert doing?
When it is not converting ide -> scsi.
Reply Re: New version: 0.2007.06.18 Jun 25, 2007 1:02 PM
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Click to view RDPetruska's profile Guru RDPetruska 13,873 posts since
Jan 11, 2005
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Converting Disk types (to/from monolithic/2GB-split and/or growable/preallocated), NOT Disk Adapter types (IDE/SCSI).
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