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pingaiter Novice 17 posts since
Nov 25, 2006
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Apr 6, 2007 2:30 PM

keyboard stops working... system beeps

I've seen a few posts circulating with no resolution regarding this so I thought I'd add my observations. My situation is similar to what I've read with others. Mysteriously Fusion guest OSes will lose keyboard functionality. This is consistent with all OSes I currently have configured (Solaris 10-64, XP SP2, Ubuntu 6.10 Server). With Solaris it seemed to happen right before I could type the domain name during the system install procedure. There doesn't seem to be a similar pattern with XP SP2 and Ubuntu. Funny thing is in XP, pressing the Command key will trigger the opening of the Start menu, however no other keys will work. Pressing any other key in any OS results in an OS X system beep with no output to the Fusion VM. All other OS X applications respond normally to the keyboard, including VMs running in Parallels!

 

On a whim, I've closed all my Parallels VMs and proceeded to reinstall Solaris. I did get past all initial screens and the install appears to be proceeding normally. Perhaps there is a conflict with Parallels and Fusion with grabbing keyboard input. Any thoughts?

 

Oh, I'm using Fusion beta 3, and Parallels build 3188 in case anyone's curious.

 

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Macbook Pro 2.33 C2D | 3GB Ram | 160 GB HD | OS X 10.4.9

bgertzfield Master VMware Employees 1,120 posts since
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1. Apr 6, 2007 3:01 PM in response to: pingaiter
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

This means some application (usually Quicken or CheckPoint Secure Client VPN-1) has disabled keyboard input systemwide.

 

You'll notice that while this happens, if you go to System Preferences > International > Input menu and enable the "Keyboard Viewer", that Keyboard Viewer no longer works.

 

Are you running either Quicken or CheckPoint Secure Client VPN-1?

 

If you're running Mac OS X 10.4.9 when this happens, can you run the following from a Terminal (from the /Applications/Utilities folder)?

 

ioreg -l -w 0 | grep SecureInput

 

You should see something like:

 

"IOConsoleUsers"  = (\{"kCGSSessionGroupIDKey"=20,"kCGSSessionOnConsoleKey"=Yes,"kCGSSessionIDKey"=256,"kCGSSessionUserNameKey"="admin","kCGSessionLoginDoneKey"=Yes,"kCGSessionLongUserNameKey"="admin","kCGSSessionSystemSafeBoot"=No,"kCGSSessionLoginwindowSafeLogin"=No,"kCGSSessionConsoleSetKey"=0,"kCGSSessionUserIDKey"=501,"kCGSSessionSecureInputPID"=311})  "IOConsoleUsersSeed" = <14000000>

 

Let me know what you see for the "kCGSSessionSecureInputPID" value.  Can you note down the number, then run:

 

ps auxwww | grep 311

 

(where 311 is that number)

 

so we can see what application has enabled secure input?

 

Thanks!

wesochuck Hot Shot 2 posts since
Mar 14, 2007
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2. Apr 9, 2007 9:49 AM in response to: bgertzfield
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

This was just what I needed.  The checkpoint SecureClient program was preventing my keyboard from working properly.  I stopped the VPN client (on my Mac side) and then I was able to use the keyboard again.  Thanks so much for your help!

bgertzfield Master VMware Employees 1,120 posts since
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3. Apr 9, 2007 9:55 AM in response to: wesochuck
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

No problem.  I've written to Checkpoint, and they said they would release a fixed version of the client.

taxman Novice 24 posts since
Jun 13, 2007
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5. Jun 18, 2007 6:44 PM in response to: bgertzfield
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Are there plans to have the keyboard operate without having to disable Quicken Scheduler or the other programs?

ddigioia Lurker 1 posts since
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6. Aug 1, 2007 3:14 PM in response to: pingaiter
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Other than this issue, we love the VMware Fusion product.

 

However, this is a show-stopper for several people at my company.

 

System administrators, developers, consultants, etc. need access to customers' networks or their own through VPN's such as Check Point VPN-1 with Secureclient/Securemote.

 

I'm not sure if this is Check Point's issue to resolve.  However, they have IMHO been slow to update their Mac OS X VPN client, and Parallels Desktop does not have this compatibility issue with Check Point's software.

 

So could VMware at least acknowledge the seriousness of this bug/compatibility issue, and perhaps give us an ETA for fixing it?

 

Thanks,

David

-David
weezerkiley Lurker 1 posts since
Oct 27, 2007
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7. Oct 27, 2007 7:25 PM in response to: pingaiter
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

I have the same problem, but only if I have Parallels and VMWARE open at the same time.  I have two servers running and it would beep when I tried to input anything except the command button.

AustinJane Lurker 1 posts since
Oct 31, 2007
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8. Oct 31, 2007 8:16 AM in response to: weezerkiley
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

 

After tearing my hair our, letting it grow back, and then tearing it out again, rebooting, rebooting, and then rebooting, I decided I needed to come up with a better solution.

 

 

I dug around a little, and figured out that Opera (running on the Mac) is causing my keyboard to stop working in VMWare Fusion.  Simply closing Opera (not just minimizing it)  solved my problem.

 

 

I hope that helps anyone else out there that is also losing their hair.

 

 

bgertzfield Master VMware Employees 1,120 posts since
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9. Oct 31, 2007 9:55 AM in response to: pingaiter
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Just to let folks know, we are painfully aware of this issue, and we're sorry for the inconvenience.  The problem is that any program, like Checkpoint, Quicken, etc. can disable raw keyboard input system-wide—not just to VMware Fusion, but also to any game or accessibility application that needs to read the keyboard directly.

 

We've spent several months trying to get Apple to provide us a workaround; they wrote a Technical Note that we've been sending to the application vendors telling them how to use the keyboard disabling API correctly:

 

http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn2007/tn2150.html

 

We proposed a new API to be included in Mac OS X 10.5, but that didn't happen.

 

It's going to take some serious rearchitecting of our keyboard support to no work around this issue, and unfortunately that didn't happen in time for VMware Fusion 1.1.

chillyjim Lurker 6 posts since
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10. Dec 3, 2007 7:03 AM in response to: bgertzfield
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Sorry I should have posted this a while ago. There is a fix to the Check Point SecureClient  problem. If you contact support they can supply you the updated client. The version I got is SecureClient_B612008001_1.pkg.zip.

 

Also when in "Unity" mode the keyboard does work.

 

-jlh

cej Lurker 2 posts since
Apr 18, 2005
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11. Jan 24, 2008 5:47 AM in response to: chillyjim
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Hi chillyjim. Is this fix also available for the pre-release SecureClient for Leopard, or is it just for 10.4?  I just got the pre-relase and am running Leopard.  As you suggested, switching to Unity resolves the issue, but I prefer to work in full screen mode.

chillyjim Lurker 6 posts since
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12. Jan 25, 2008 6:25 AM in response to: cej
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

The fix isn't in the EA for Leopard but I'm told it will be in the GA (Mid-March is the latest I've heard for GA).

cej Lurker 2 posts since
Apr 18, 2005
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13. Jan 25, 2008 6:36 AM in response to: chillyjim
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Thanks for the info.  I think I can get by until then.  Take care.

 

p.s. I also noted the EA version burns quite a bit of CPU.

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Charles E. Johnson

Information Systems Manager, Schenker Inc.

telephone: 516.403.5405

benpoole Lurker 3 posts since
Dec 29, 2006
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14. Feb 18, 2008 1:16 AM in response to: bgertzfield
Re: keyboard stops working... system beeps

Great tip, thank you. I was able to identify the errant process on my machine causing this too. For the record, the audio scrobbling client, last.fm, was responsible!

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