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Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working posted: Feb 13, 2007 8:50 PM

Click to view johnstonf's profile Enthusiast 132 posts since
Jan 23, 2007
I have Windows98 working quite nicely now, mouse, video, networking, but I am
not getting any audio!

The "Sound Adapter" is enabled (and disabled in other VM session), but still
no sound (but works in OSX and other VM (XP-PRO).

When I go into ControlPanel> System> DeviceManager> I see:
"?Other devices:"
"PCI Multimedia Audio Device"
"PCI Universal Serial Bus"

So it's like there aren't any drivers for the Audio installed.

Any ideas???

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

1. Feb 14, 2007 4:18 AM in response to: johnstonf
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,202 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
So it's like there aren't any drivers for the Audio installed.
Any ideas???

Shutdown your VM and try changing the virtual sound device to a SoundBlaster16 card, by changing this line in your VM folder's .vmx file:

[code]
sound.virtualDev = "es1371"[/code]
to

[code]
sound.present = "TRUE"
sound.virtualDev = "sb16"
sound.fileName = "-1"
sound.autodetect = "TRUE"[/code]
Then follow the section in this link to manually add the SoundBlaster sound card driver to Windows 98
http://www.vmware.com/support/ws3/doc/ws32_vidsound4.html

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

2. Feb 14, 2007 9:10 AM in response to: johnstonf
Click to view RDPetruska's profile Guru 15,877 posts since
Jan 11, 2005
You need to download drivers from Creative Labs' site for the SoundBlaster AudioPCI card.

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

3. Feb 14, 2007 9:14 AM in response to: johnstonf
Click to view KevinG's profile Guru 16,980 posts since
Jan 8, 2004
You do not need to edit the .vmx file and change it to SB16
The current settings are fine. For Windows 9x you need to download the sound driver from Creative Labs.
The Sound Blaster PCI 128 driver is now located in Creative Labs archives

http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?sOSName=Windows+98®ion=1&Product_Name=Sound+Blaster+PCI+128&Product_ID=1864&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=2&drivertype=1&Image4.x=27&Image4.y=9

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

4. Feb 14, 2007 10:14 AM in response to: RDPetruska
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,202 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
Here comes the Windows 98 calvary to the rescue... :)

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

5. Feb 14, 2007 10:22 AM in response to: rcardona2k
Click to view RDPetruska's profile Guru 15,877 posts since
Jan 11, 2005
Here comes the Windows 98 calvary to the rescue... :)
LOL! I wasn't very much help with his last problem, was I? :-(

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

6. Feb 14, 2007 10:25 AM in response to: RDPetruska
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,202 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
I wasn't very much help with his last problem, was I?

Well...that's why I said Win98 is built upon a pile of...code, and that's being nice.

I'd just as well donate some eMacs his way, if I had them vs. running Win98 VMs.

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

8. Feb 15, 2007 6:53 AM in response to: johnstonf
Click to view RDPetruska's profile Guru 15,877 posts since
Jan 11, 2005
Is there an A-Z document for building a Win98SE VM?
Have you looked at the Guest OS Installation Guide? If it's not included with Fusion and/or not part of the documentation for download, you can look at the Workstation and Server documentation links. That guide lists known issues with individual guest OS's. As far as the virtual hardware and other common items, just read the User Manual.

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

9. Feb 15, 2007 8:01 AM in response to: RDPetruska
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,202 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
Have you looked at the Guest OS Installation Guide?

The Guest OS installation guide is referenced from the Fusion Docs.

If it's not included with Fusion and/or not part of the documentation for download

The above still doesn't make Win98SE a supported OS for the Fusion beta. I will be surprised if an OS that old will ever be properly supported. Also it's relevancy for OS X users is questionable if not dubious.

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

10. Feb 15, 2007 8:05 AM in response to: rcardona2k
Click to view RDPetruska's profile Guru 15,877 posts since
Jan 11, 2005
Rich, I can tell you that just a couple of weeks ago I found a need to use a Win98SE guest of mine (which I'd created a long time ago). My daughter got an older children's educational game which would not install on XP (issue with virtual memory settings). I unzipped my 98 guest onto my wife's PC (I had already installed Player on it figuring this day would come ;-) ), tweaked a few settings, installed my daughter's game, and presto! Working game, happy preschooler.

Also it's relevancy for OS X users is questionable if not dubious.
I believe the above situation could occur to ANY computer user - doesn't matter if you are running Windows, Linux, or OSX. :-)

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

11. Feb 15, 2007 3:07 PM in response to: RDPetruska
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,202 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
Rich, I can tell you that just a couple of weeks ago I found a need to use a Win98SE guest of mine (which I'd created a long time ago). My daughter got an older children's educational game which would not install on XP (issue with virtual memory settings).

I'm not so sure the right .PIF file wouldn't fix this problem under XP. ;) XP has pretty incredible 9x backward compatibility.

It's not that I'm so much against Win9x, but rather realistically I question how much time the VMware test teams spends on out-of-date, out-of-service OSes.

Sure if the VMM supports it well, you can run it. Then there's the overall collective knowledge required to make 9x run. An A-Z guide for Win9x just makes me laugh and cry at the same time.

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

13. Feb 16, 2007 7:13 AM in response to: johnstonf
Click to view rcardona2k's profile Champion 5,202 posts since
Oct 20, 2005
This thread may suffice.

My biggest problem with a network-connected Windows 98/SE is not Microsoft, but rather the deplorable state of security for such an old operating system.

Stuck between running an unsecure OS for obsolete software, I would find newer, replacement software.

Since you're in education, you can appreciate the case of Julie Amero, the 40-yr old substitute teacher in Connecticut who has been convicted of running a Windows 98 system infested with a pop-up malware that lead to her students seeing adult material.

Julie Amero Case: Cautionary Tale for Teachers, School IT Staff
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=169608810

Substitute Teacher Faces Jail Time Over Spyware
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/01/substitute_teacher_faces_jail.html

Questionable Conviction of Connecticut Teacher in Pop-up Porn Case
http://www.alternet.org/rights/46925/

Regardless of her innocence or guilt. This is case reason alone never to run Windows 98 in 2007. Windows 98, even protected via NAT is not sufficient to deal with today's security threats.

Re: Windows98 Audio (Sound Adapter) not working

14. Jun 22, 2007 7:54 PM in response to: johnstonf
Click to view GeneAm's profile Novice 3 posts since
Jun 22, 2007
The Creative drivers did the trick for my audio problem as well. Thanks!

I'd like to encourage support for Win98SE, and as far back as is possible.

The only reason I tried Fusion is that my Other Virtualization Product couldn't suitably run a Windows 3.1 app in 98SE. The performance was horrible with 98SE, from installation and forward.

The CPU load is still a little on the high side in Fusion, but it works well enough to work.

The app will NOT run in compatibility mode on XP or 2000... I truly wish it did.

My brother works for a big lab, and they have to run Windows 3.1 on some machines because it is the only way to run some of their equipment. Old DOS & Windows software will be out there forever, and VMware can certainly make some sales from it.

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