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AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware posted: Dec 29, 2005 10:43 AM

Click to view qazwsx's profile Enthusiast 110 posts since
Nov 1, 2004
see here http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/29/amd_and_intel_servers_compete_for_ultimate_virtuality/

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

1. Dec 29, 2005 10:47 AM in response to: qazwsx
Click to view BrianG's profile Champion 3,670 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
OMG - Here we go again.

I can just see the 8 page thread starting now!

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

2. Dec 29, 2005 10:49 AM in response to: BrianG
Click to view djc49939's profile Master 1,509 posts since
Jan 26, 2005
muy interesante...

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

3. Dec 29, 2005 10:58 AM in response to: qazwsx
Click to view jasonboche's profile Champion 5,896 posts since
Jan 7, 2004
AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron AMD Opteron

hyperthreading...

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

4. Dec 29, 2005 10:58 AM in response to: jasonboche
Click to view sbeaver's profile Guru 7,719 posts since
Nov 1, 2004
Jason tell me how you really feel :)

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

5. Dec 29, 2005 11:00 AM in response to: sbeaver
Click to view BrianG's profile Champion 3,670 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
Steve,

Jas is on vacation and still waiting on that baby so I think there is a beer or 2 or 3 behind this post.

Bri

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

6. Dec 29, 2005 11:03 AM in response to: sbeaver
Click to view djc49939's profile Master 1,509 posts since
Jan 26, 2005
no IBM X3...

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

7. Dec 29, 2005 11:06 AM in response to: djc49939
Click to view jasonboche's profile Champion 5,896 posts since
Jan 7, 2004
We want servers that perform. ;)

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

8. Dec 29, 2005 11:12 AM in response to: jasonboche
Click to view jasonboche's profile Champion 5,896 posts since
Jan 7, 2004
"Closing Thoughts
Our tests show that Intel's Hyper Threading processors can provide a substantial performance boost, even if the number of active VMs exceeds the logical HT processor count. This is clearly due to the fact that with virtualization, there is a higher chance of producing two instructions to run on the integer and floating point units simultaneously, than is the case in a simple Windows environment. You can say that the NetBurst technology (which features Hyper Threading) could be called VMBurst and that it eases your virtualization overhead. An Intel quad CPU server with dual core CPUs and 16 HT units is likely to give a similar AMD Opteron quad CPU dual core server a run for the money, even at a Xeon clock speed of just 2.8 GHz. We are looking forward to pitting these setups against each other.

It is surprising that Hyper Threading is so effective, since most VMware specialists recommend turning it off. It is possible that the results are different with a lower CPU usage level and more VMs.

As you can see from the results, you really must test your applications on both AMD and Intel platforms in order to properly decide which is the faster alternative - the results can be surprising. Before we started testing, we suspected the floating point intensive Cplex application would be much faster on the AMD platform, but we were wrong. Although Intel's new dual core Xeon can't outperform the AMD Opteron under conventional server environments, it is likely to give AMD a solid beating in the virtualization space."


Sounds like Tom's leaving the decision on AMD versus Intel up to us.

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

9. Dec 29, 2005 11:13 AM in response to: qazwsx
Click to view AMcCreath's profile Master 1,071 posts since
Jan 7, 2005
For ones like this there should be a lovely little poll button that you can click. This is one sure fired question to get hundreds of responses!! :-)

p.s.
AMD

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

10. Dec 29, 2005 11:14 AM in response to: jasonboche
Click to view djc49939's profile Master 1,509 posts since
Jan 26, 2005
hey now...

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

11. Dec 29, 2005 11:15 AM in response to: jasonboche
Click to view BrianG's profile Champion 3,670 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
By us you mean Paulo and Massimo?

We are waiting for both of you to chime in on this one.

Ding Ding "Round 3"

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

12. Dec 29, 2005 11:38 AM in response to: BrianG
Click to view citrix_guy's profile Expert 460 posts since
Mar 29, 2004
Pretty good article. It would have been better to have the dual core Intel boxes in there too (which they mention numerous times), and compare them at the price/performance chart in the end.

While I havent seen any real numbers on the dual core Intel procs yet, my GUESS, is that if they keep up or surpass the AMD procs, the price vs perfromance chart MIGHT still slide into AMD's favor. Will be nice to see that stuff updated with dual core intel's

Ron

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

13. Dec 29, 2005 11:46 AM in response to: qazwsx
Click to view sgunelius's profile Expert 529 posts since
Oct 6, 2003
Nnnnnnoooooooo!!!!

Re: AMD versus Intel with ESX on Tom's Hardware

14. Dec 29, 2005 12:19 PM in response to: BrianG
Click to view king@it.ibm.com's profile Virtuoso 2,927 posts since
Jan 16, 2004
By us you mean Paulo and Massimo?
We are waiting for both of you to chime in on this one.

;-)

No comment.

Massimo.

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