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buckmaster Enthusiast 142 posts since
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Aug 30, 2011 6:46 AM

No boot after clean install

I have a generic Intel motherboard with a sata ich9 controller, home lab.  It has ran esx4 fine ever since esx4 beta.  When I load esx5 to hard drive or usb drive on reboot the monitor just displays a cursor.  When inserting the esx5 installer cd and rebooting you have two choices 1. Install Esx or 2. Boot from local HD.  When selecting boot from local HD, esx5 will boot from the previous install?  Seems like the bootloader is not correct.  Any ideas?

 

Thanks

nalfonso14 Enthusiast 88 posts since
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1. Sep 1, 2011 10:32 AM in response to: buckmaster
Re: No boot after clean install

Hi!, first check the hardware compatibility matrix http://www.vmware.com/go/hcl..

 

When you select Local HD, in boot loader, the esxi 5 instalation is abort and process to run esxi preinstalled..

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nalfonso14 Enthusiast 88 posts since
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2. Sep 1, 2011 10:54 AM in response to: nalfonso14
Re: No boot after clean install

if your hardware is in HCL its compatible to esxi... see any error in boot??? check if you see also

 

http://kb.vmware.com/1017162

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nkrishnan Hot Shot 218 posts since
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3. Sep 2, 2011 12:31 AM in response to: buckmaster
Re: No boot after clean install

Also make sure that you have choosen right booting method (either EFI or BIOS). Use the same that you used it during the installation of ESX5.0 and check it

nalfonso14 Enthusiast 88 posts since
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5. Sep 6, 2011 9:50 AM in response to: buckmaster
Re: No boot after clean install

ups sorry try this

 

 

http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1017162

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PatrickD Hot Shot VMware Employees 116 posts since
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7. Sep 6, 2011 2:55 PM in response to: buckmaster
Re: No boot after clean install

By default ESXi 5.0 uses GPT based partitions tables and not MBR like it did previously.  This allows you to have disks which are greater than 2TB in size, but some systems are incompatible with it (possibly including yours) or need to have the correct BIOS setting.

 

You can try changing your BIOS to see if it's compatible with EFI or will work in "legacy/compatibility mode".  Alternatively you can reinstall and use the "formatwithmbr" setting at the boot prompt which will cause the partitions to be set up the way they were in ESX 4.x.  Just add it in the same way you would to tell the machine to do a scripted install.

 

Hope that helps..

--Patrick.

PatrickD Hot Shot VMware Employees 116 posts since
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9. Sep 6, 2011 5:49 PM in response to: buckmaster
Re: No boot after clean install

I designed the installer and demanded that we have that feature.  :-D

 

One of the key features for the 5.0 release was that we wanted to support 2+TB disks.  We thought everyone would have BIOSes which were compatible with GPT when we started putting together the requirements back in 2009.  Since we were going to be migrating everyone over from ESX based partition tables onto the partition layout that ESXi uses, we figured we should start getting everyone to use GPT as well.  It works with any system on our HCL, but we knew there were bound to be some people out there with first generation 64 bit systems which didn't support EFI or BIOS based GPT.  We just didn't know how many people it would effect so we left in the option to partition with either.

 

On a related note, we also had a problem with migrating VMFS partitions from MBR to GPT which would have caused the VMFS partition to potentially have been clipped due to the secondary boot record.  If you upgrade from ESX 4.x or ESXi 4.x you still end up with an MBR partition table and not a GPT based one.  If you'd used VUM or the installation CD to upgrade your 4.x based system you wouldn't have run into this problem, but probably would have been scratching your head when you tried re-installing from scratch.  :-D

 

Thanks,

--Patrick.

volleyballdan Lurker 1 posts since
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11. Sep 10, 2011 7:57 AM in response to: PatrickD
Re: No boot after clean install

Patrick, the formatwithmbr seems to help me as well..mostly. Here's what I'm doing and my issue. I run esxi5 bood CD.  do shift + O.  Erase runweasel...type in "formatwithmbr".  I'm not sure if this syntax is correct.  Anyway, ESXi5 loads great this way.  Issue is still upon reboot it won't load.  I've seen once after about 20 minutes it does load but this isn't acceptable.  MB is on HCL, so I'm stuck, and need help.  Thanks.

PatrickD Hot Shot VMware Employees 116 posts since
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12. Sep 10, 2011 10:55 AM in response to: volleyballdan
Re: No boot after clean install

volleyballdan:  Don't erase the "runweasel" command.  It's was causes the installer to start.  Without it you're just booting ESXi and nothing more.  Add the "formatwithmbr" and you should end up in the installer (weasel) and your drive with be formatted in a way that your BIOS can understand.

wdbarker Enthusiast 53 posts since
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13. Sep 10, 2011 4:54 PM in response to: PatrickD
Re: No boot after clean install

For anyone trying to duplicate these successes, "add" means type a space and formatwithmbr. I first tried a comma, and that didn't help. I didn't try a plus sign because a space worked. So, by "boot prompt" they mean the prompt you get after hitting Shift-O. And by add, they mean a space delimited addition of the string. "runweasel formatwithmbr". Clear as mud? I have no idea why it's so important to be obscure with these tips.

 

Oh, but "Thanks anyway" I really appreciate having only 3 things to try instead of the hundreds I'd have had on my own looking into the bootloader with no doc! Thanks Patrick!

PatrickD Hot Shot VMware Employees 116 posts since
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14. Sep 11, 2011 8:10 AM in response to: wdbarker
Re: No boot after clean install

wdbarker:  I wasn't trying to be obscure;  I just didn't have access to a machine to test it out before I replied to the post.  I'm glad you got it to work despite not having clear directions.

 

Incidentally, I haven't worked on the installer for over a year, but I have talked with the dev. manager to get some better documentation.  Hopefully that will be forthcoming, probably in the way of a KB article.

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