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Click to view Dryvlyne's profile Novice 25 posts since
Oct 13, 2007
Anyone know if a bug has been officially filed? If not, how does one go about doing this?

I too am having sound issues with Ubuntu 9.10, however I'm using Fusion 2.0.6. I uninstalled PulseAudio and it made no difference. I'm running Fusion on a MacBook Pro (model 3,1) 2.4Ghz CPU and 4GB of RAM. I'm inclined to think this is a Fusion driver issue since another poster indicated he has sound under Parallels 5. Hopefully the Fusion team will get out an update to address this.
Click to view Dryvlyne's profile Novice 25 posts since
Oct 13, 2007
Okay, I don't think it is a problem with Fusion after all, but indeed something with Pulseaudio. Using the Synaptic Package Manager in Ubuntu I marked pulseaudio for Complete Removal. Although I did this before it had no effect and that's because it does NOT remove the gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio package. I had to also mark this for Complete Removal as well. Since completely removing both of these packages I have been able to successfully playback MP3 files without further issue.

FWIW, I also came across this lengthy audio troubleshooting guide on the Ubuntu forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012

Though I didn't come across anything that allowed me to keep Pulseaudio installed and playing my audio files perhaps it may be useful to others.
Click to view markdc's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Nov 8, 2009

If you completely removed pulseaudio you may need to run sudo apt-get esound

To get a workable control panel you can use the older gnome sound control panel.

http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3324

Quick takeaway:



"....For Ubuntu 9.10: one cannot access the sound preferences without having
PulseAudio installed (i.e. clicking on System->Preferences->Sound
results in an error message "waiting for sound system to respond").
However, one can still run the old gnome-sound-properties with a couple
of files. The attached file has 32bit/x86 and 64bit/x86-64 versions of
the old gnome-sound-properties program go to link for files. Move sound-properties.glade
(this file is not architecture-dependent) to
/usr/local/share/gnome-control-center/glade/ (you'll probably need to
create this directory). Move the appropriate version of the
gnome-sound-properties file to /usr/local/bin. You can run this program
from the command-line or create a shortcut for it..."



Once done I created a launcher from the panel for the gnome-sound-properties--works fine.

It would be nice to eventually tune all the fusion/9.10 pulse issues, but for the fast fix removing pulse audio and installing esound along with adding in the gnome-sound-properties bin worked fine for the meantime.

Click to view BrianRowland's profile Lurker 2 posts since
Nov 10, 2009
FYI, "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio" worked fine for me using ubuntu 9.10 on a Mac Book Pro (10.6.1) on VMWare Fusion 2.06.
Click to view nbe's profile Enthusiast 63 posts since
Apr 3, 2009
The ubuntu-desktop package is just a meta package: it only links to other packages that will be installed/removed when you invoke the install/remove commands. Upon removing pulseaudio (which causes an awful lot of sounds related problems on different distributions; users have been ranting about ever since it's being used in Ubuntu and others) you might be notified that this is part of the ubuntu-desktop meta package and this will be unselected. You can safely acknowledge this message as it will only unmark the ubuntu-desktop package as being installed, it will not change anything else and it won't remove any package.

Same story goes for kubuntu-desktop (for kubuntu users) and xubuntu-desktop (xubuntu users).
Click to view ivocal's profile Lurker 5 posts since
Nov 20, 2009

Removing pulse does not "work fine" -- Sure, audio output starts to work, but there are issues:

  • The audio does not survive a suspend/resume cycle
  • audio controls under System -> Preferences -> Sound are no longer available, so you cannot choose which attached audio device will be the default.

VMWare needs to fix their SH*T and get active on this thread. Their silence on this problem is inexcusable.
Click to view WoodyZ's profile Guru 10,119 posts since
Apr 22, 2004
ivocal wrote: VMWare needs to fix their SH*T and get active on this thread. Their silence on this problem is inexcusable.

Ubuntu 9.10 is not (yet) a supported OS. So you really have no right to complain.
Click to view img47's profile Enthusiast 42 posts since
Apr 9, 2007
OK, it's been 4 weeks since Ubuntu 9.10 release, and Ubuntu was in beta months before that. Competition already supports it (including Compiz).
In how many weeks we will get the right to complain?
Click to view WoodyZ's profile Guru 10,119 posts since
Apr 22, 2004
img47 wrote: OK, it's been 4 weeks since Ubuntu 9.10 release, and Ubuntu was in beta months before that. Competition already supports it (including Compiz). In how many weeks we will get the right to complain?

As long as you are using an unsupported OS you never have any rights to complain regardless of time and regardless of what the competition is doing. If you don't like it then use the competitors product!

VMware Fusion 3 has some issues with supported OSes so if you have a problem running a supported OS then by all means complain however if is not supported then what don't you understand about it's not supported?!
Click to view img47's profile Enthusiast 42 posts since
Apr 9, 2007
I think it should be clear - are you expressing this opinion as a Fusion user (like me) or are you somehow related to VMware/Fusion?
Click to view WoodyZ's profile Guru 10,119 posts since
Apr 22, 2004
img47 wrote: I think it should be clear - are you expressing this opinion as a Fusion user (like me) or are you somehow related to VMware/Fusion?

I actually now use Parallels as my primary virtualization product on the Mac however I do use other VMware products on Windows and Linux Hosts and now only use Fusion to support my Clients that use Fusion. I'm also a strong proponent when it comes to pointing out something that isn't right with a supported OS or product feature that has issues under a supported OS or is being used in a supported manner however no one has any rights to complain about something that is not working under an unsupported OS, product or manner in any situation where unsupported is a factor and VMware clearly and plainly states what Guest OSes it supports under what VMware products and other system requirements so once again were back at the fact that Ubuntu 9.10 is not (yet) a supported Guest OS and until VMware chooses to officially support it then no one has any rights to complain about it. Did you, or anyone else for that matter, pay any money for a VMware product that states it supports Ubuntu 9.10? NO! So stop complaining about it. If you want to point it out politely and kindly request it be supported as soon as possible that certainly is acceptable however anything other then that is out of line since you or anyone else has not paid any money for a VMware product that states it supports Ubuntu 9.10!
Click to view img47's profile Enthusiast 42 posts since
Apr 9, 2007
Interesting difference:
1. this is how WMware defines supported operating systems (example):
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.3, 4.7, 3.9, 2.1-stock 2.4.9-e3 (Advanced Server, Enterprise Server, Workstation)
Red Hat Linux 9.0—stock 2.4.20-8, upgrade 2.4.20-20.9
Red Hat Linux 7.0—stock 2.2.16-22, upgrade 2.2.17-14
Solaris 10 on x86 (Update 7)
Ubuntu Linux 9.04, 8.10, 8.04.3, 7.10, 6.10, 5.10
Mandriva Linux 2009.1, 2008, 2007, 2006

2. and this is from Parallels:
Linux:
CentOS
SUSE
OpenSUSE
Red Hat
Red Hat Enterprise
Debian
Fedora Core
Mandriva
Ubuntu
Xandros

Frankly saying I much more prefer "Ubuntu", than "Ubuntu Linux 9.04, 8.10, 8.04.3, 7.10, 6.10, 5.10".

I may have made a mistake to upgrade to Fusion 3.... Anybody has any experience with VMware money back guarantee?
Click to view mykmelez's profile Hot Shot 221 posts since
Jul 29, 2007
img47 wrote:
Frankly saying I much more prefer "Ubuntu", than "Ubuntu Linux 9.04, 8.10, 8.04.3, 7.10, 6.10, 5.10".

IMHO, the latter is preferable, because it's clear what it means: that VMware supports those specific versions of the Ubuntu OS.

Parallels' declaration that it supports "Ubuntu", on the other hand, is unclear. Does it claim to support all released versions of Ubuntu, from the oldest to the most recent? Or only certain versions? More to the point, does it support the specific version of Ubuntu you want to run on it? Given that a Google search for "parallels ubuntu 9.10" finds a number of forum posts from people having trouble installing Parallels tools on Ubuntu 9.10, I don't think the answer to that question is the one you seem to think it is.

FWIW, I too would love to see Fusion support for Ubuntu 9.10, and more generally, I'd like to see VMware roll out compatibility updates for new versions of Ubuntu more quickly, since testing versions of Ubuntu releases are available months in advance of their release, and there's no reason VMware couldn't update their tools well in advance of a release.

I also disagree that we shouldn't complain about this issue. Complaining about issues is one of the primary reasons for this forum! How else would VMware learn about the issues their customers are facing and which they might want to address?

However, I do think that it's important to be respectful when complaining and not assume incompetence or malevolence.

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