Thanks Troy I know you were trying hard

Actually that last KB I think did the trick. What I didn't have on our SQL database was a service account for the VUM to use to access the database. I haven't had to do that for any of the other ODBC connections so it was fairly new to me shrug just created a new user for the VUM SQL Database and gave it dbo rights. Its all connected and downloading the signatures right now. Hopefully ~30 hours this weekend is enough time for it to download all the updates before Monday morning

Thanks again for all your help

• Kyle