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kdonofrio Novice 7 posts since
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Sep 20, 2009 11:17 AM

ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

 

I am looking to build two whiteboxes for esx4.0.  I am looking to use microatx cases/motherboards to save on space.  I find there is a lot of people doing this already, but with different variations of motherboards and processors.  I want the install to work out of the box, preferably using the motherboard built in raid.  I just want plain raid 1.  Below is what i am thinking of using.  Any suggestions would be helpful!

 

 

 

 

 

High end specifications:

 

 

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131387

 

 

Quad core processor - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115130

 

 

8GB ram - Any

 

 

Onboard GB network - will the onboard work?

 

 

Pci-e Dual GB network card - ??

 

 

lamw Guru vExpert 5,952 posts since
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1. Sep 20, 2009 11:26 AM in response to: kdonofrio
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

You might want to check out Dave's site which contains a huge list of whitebox configuration for both ESX(i) 3.5 & 4.0: http://www.vm-help.com/esx40i/esx40_whitebox_HCL.php

 

 

 

 

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DSTAVERT Guru User Moderators vExpert 10,090 posts since
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2. Sep 20, 2009 11:33 AM in response to: kdonofrio
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

Your chances of having a desktop motherboard work out of the box are slim. Onboard RAID absolutely will not. ESX(i) have very limited hardware support since it is after all an enterprise solution. If this is intended for a production environment then I wouldn't waste too much time with a cobbled together server. Get a real server. If this is for testing and education I would spend some time looking through the resources at vm-help.com to find something that can be made to work.

 

Good luck.

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Datto Expert 369 posts since
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4. Sep 21, 2009 3:00 PM in response to: kdonofrio
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

You may be better served to find a mothboard that works with ESX that has 4x4GB capability rather than 2x4GB memory max. Memory is commonly the limiting factor in the number of VMs you can get on an ESX host.

 

Also, I noticed the audio on that motherboard is Realtek and if the NIC is also Realtek then the motherboard NIC is not likely to work with ESX -- you'd need some addin gigabit NIC cards such as a dual or quad PCI-e NIC Intel card for that 16X PCI-e slot (requires at least 4X PCI-e slot for the dual and quad gigabit Intel NICs) and/or some regular PCI NICs such as Intel 1000MT PCI NICs. If possible, you'll want at least four physical NICs (more if you're intending to do VMware FT) -- 1 NIC for Service Console Active and VMotion Standby, 1 NIC for Service Console Standby and VMotion Active and 2 NICs for VM traffic. If you're going to implement VMware FT, I wouldn't put the FT Logging traffic on any of the first four NICs -- VMware FT creates quite a bit of traffic so it would be best to put VMware FT Logging on a separate 5th NIC.

 

 

 

Also, it's highly unlikely that a motherboard driver-based (not hardware) RAID controller is going

to be understood by ESX -- if you must have RAID on the local disks

you'll likely need a separate add-in RAID controller that is on the HCL or known to work with ESX 4.0.

 

 

 

As you can see, what someone else suggested about getting a server from HP, IBM or Dell may make financial sense when you start looking at all the addins and memory quantity.

 

 

 

For others who may be looking at a very low cost AMD white box lab that can do VMware FT, you can find details and caveats of part of my home lab here:

 

 

 

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/218140

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Datto

dilidolo Enthusiast 72 posts since
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5. Sep 21, 2009 3:30 PM in response to: kdonofrio
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

 

I have 2 X58 +i7 based Supermicro motherboards working with ESX 4/4i out of box including onboard nic. The setup is not cheap but works very well. I have 2*6G memory on each board.

 

 

 

 

 

What's your budget?

 

 

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6. Sep 21, 2009 3:41 PM in response to: dilidolo
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

What were the specific models of MBs?




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New book in town - vSphere Quick Start Guide  -http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2009/08/12/new-book-in-town-vsphere-quick-start-guide/.

Do you have a system or PCI card working with VMDirectPath?  Submit your specs to the Unofficial VMDirectPath HCL - http://www.vm-help.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21.

dilidolo Enthusiast 72 posts since
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7. Sep 21, 2009 3:46 PM in response to: Dave.Mishchen…
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

 

http://www.vm-help.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=459

 

 

 

 

 

You may get the model without onboard SAS which is a lot cheaper.

 

 

Dave.Mishchen… Guru User Moderators vExpert 11,904 posts since
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8. Sep 21, 2009 3:58 PM in response to: dilidolo
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

Thanks.  Have you tried VMdirectpath with them?

dilidolo Enthusiast 72 posts since
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9. Sep 21, 2009 4:02 PM in response to: Dave.Mishchen…
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

Yes, they work.

Dave.Mishchen… Guru User Moderators vExpert 11,904 posts since
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10. Sep 21, 2009 4:01 PM in response to: dilidolo
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

What sort of devices have you tried?   I'm working on building up a VMdirectpath whitebox HCL .

dilidolo Enthusiast 72 posts since
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11. Sep 21, 2009 4:15 PM in response to: Dave.Mishchen…
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

I have SAS hba working. I can try the qlogic FC hba later.

justin2net Novice 9 posts since
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12. Sep 21, 2009 5:10 PM in response to: dilidolo
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

What SAS HBA? Onboard LSI 1068E?

dilidolo Enthusiast 72 posts since
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13. Sep 21, 2009 6:37 PM in response to: justin2net
Re: ESX 4.0 Whitebox suggestions?

Yes, the onboard LSI 1068e works.

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