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Click to view Texiwill's profile Guru 10,212 posts since
Jan 13, 2004
Hello,

I have gotten vCenter for Linux to recognize a PostgreSQL version of the database but it fails on a querying saying the table column does not exist, when it does.... So something in your code is doing very very odd comparisons on table names.......


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Click to view pcable's profile Novice 8 posts since
Feb 21, 2008
I was wondering if anyone in this thread may have seen my other thread and have any suggestions regarding ODBC connectivity - http://communities.vmware.com//thread/196662
Click to view wmgtech's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Aug 14, 2008

Would like to test the Linux VC Server for future plans in our environment.

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Click to view ricardo-vmware's profile Enthusiast 68 posts since
Dec 22, 2004
RE: LDAP Support ..

The vCenter virtual appliance uses PAM for authentication.

We only provided the means to configure NIS, but it is possible to configure any other PAM module to do authentication (ie: LDAP, KRB5, etc) -- and we've even had customers setup centrify/quest to do AD integration.

Use Likewise to enable PAM to talk to AD

19. Mar 10, 2009 7:14 AM in response to: ricardo-vmware
Click to view fpjs's profile Novice 10 posts since
Jan 14, 2009
Just use LikeWise ( http://likewise-open.com/ ) to enable PAM + AD integration.

I'm using this on various Linux products that only support PAM authentication to enable central AD logons for everything on Linux. We mostly use Ubuntu/Debian systems, some CentOS servers are around.


This LikeWise system is a dream come true :-)

Click to view caldwelr's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Jan 21, 2007


I just viewed the presentation from VMware Europe. I'm very happy to see that this is progressing. It has been very frustrating to hear VMware talking about an appliance approach when I have to install a windows server and a SQL server for practically every VMware product. My ESX servers are practifcally bullet-proof and my guests all run uninterrupted regardless of ESX patching but I have to reboot my VC server on a regular basis for Windows patches.

I think you touched on it in the presentation, but it's critical that a cross-platform approach become ingrained in the way of doing business within VMware if this is to succeed. You simply can't succeed in an environment where one platform is chasing the other and the leading team is free to implement features in a way that may complicate cross-platform support.

Ellimination of Oracle and SQL is critical for an appliance approach. We're partial to mySQL.

Looking forward to trying this out.

Click to view griffinboy's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Mar 10, 2009

Unfortunately for all MySQL fans out there, Oracle have just bought SUN...

What will stop them from getting rid of MySQL all together in the next couple of years and? From their POV, why supporting a free product when they could make Millions by forcing people to change to Oracle solutions??

Nothing announced yet afaik, but this is certainly a factor to consider regarding the future of the "VC on linux" DB backend.

Thank god we still have Postgres!!

Your thougts ?

Click to view adyoung's profile Lurker 5 posts since
Jan 19, 2009
I'm quite the PostgreSQL fan myself, have always preferred it to MySQL.

Bringing vCenter to Linux

Click to view caldwelr's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Jan 21, 2007

MySQL is released under GPLv2. If Oracle tries to kill it then someone else will certainly pick it up. My personal preference is MySQL but at this point I think the choice of open source database to support is a minor detail.
Click to view ChrisGordon's profile Lurker 2 posts since
May 26, 2009

it's great to see a Linux native version of vCenter, but there are a few problems so far:

1. You need to have the database embedded with the install of vCenter. Just like Windows, I don't have to worry about the database unless I really want to.

2. For cases where you need more than a small DB running on the same machine as vCenter itself, you need more than just Oracle as an option. As we all know Oracle licences aren't cheap and the free version of Oracle is limiited. If Oracle is the only option for a Linux vCenter deployment, then VMWare needs to provide the licences.

3. There needs to be a version of VI Client native on Linux (and Mac OS X).

4. Looks like this preview was released in 2007 and it's now 2009. Where is the progress?

Click to view adyoung's profile Lurker 5 posts since
Jan 19, 2009

Don't confuse the Linux work with the GA VC Server on Windows. Yes, that was released in 2007, butr work for the Linux port was not partof that effort. The Linux tech preview was started in 2007 (before that really) but was only realeased earlier this year. It had just been released when I presented on it at VMworld EMEA. I assure you, we are making progress. In the future, Linux releases will be syncronized with Windows releases, but I don't think I am yet at liberty to say what the first release is where that will occur.

We are working on a unfied strategy for the UI as well, but that is actually far more platform dependant thant hte Server piece is, and requires a larger set of technology changes.Just conbsider that the current GUI is built on .NET and you will get a sense of the effort required.

We are aware of the DB issues, and we are working on a better set of options. For my development, I started out with OracleXE in a separate VM. This is where I would advise you to start. In the future, we will be supporting Oracle and DB2 at a minimum. Beyond that, there is a lot of pressure for an embedded Database, just like you said. That is as much as I can really say at this time, but we hear you. I will leave you with this: the VC LInux project started because engineers at VMware recongized the need and quality of running VC on Linux, and only later was it accepted as a key piece of corporate strategy.


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Click to view ChrisGordon's profile Lurker 2 posts since
May 26, 2009

Thank you very much for the reply. It's great to hear that work is indeed progressing. Hopefully timelines can be presented publicly soon -- that will help assuage a lot of concern about the viability the project.

It'd be nice to see an updated appliance with Oracle XE included inside it and already configured -- that would really make everything more seemless and shouldn't be that hard (though I can understand the agreements with Oracle to redistribute could be challanging).

Hopefully the UI work will end up with something working across Windows, Linux and Mac OS X.

Thanks,

Chris

Click to view LanceHaig's profile Novice 4 posts since
Aug 7, 2008

Hi,

If the GUI is written in .Net use the MONO project to get it running. There is very little that does not work. I know I develop on Windows and run on MONO.

Speak to the mono developers if you get stuck I am sure they will be willing to help.

Regards

Lance

Click to view kpc's profile Enthusiast 98 posts since
Jul 12, 2006
Great to see a Linux vcenter finally in the works, keep up the good work!
Click to view caldwelr's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Jan 21, 2007
adyoung wrote:

We are aware of the DB issues, and we are working on a better set of options. For my development, I started out with OracleXE in a separate VM. This is where I would advise you to start. In the future, we will be supporting Oracle and DB2 at a minimum. Beyond that, there is a lot of pressure for an embedded Database, just like you said. That is as much as I can really say at this time, but we hear you. I will leave you with this: the VC LInux project started because engineers at VMware recongized the need and quality of running VC on Linux, and only later was it accepted as a key piece of corporate strategy.


Excellent to hear that. I really believe that as the the full impact of your technology becomes apparent it will be more and more important not to have dependencies that are owned by key competitors (such as Oracle and MS). Avoiding such dependencies may sometimes be hard, but after seeing that you appear to have achieved it with vCenter Data Recovery I'm really encouraged.

While an "embedded" database would be nice, if it has limitations on the size of supported infrastructure please be sure that a freely available database is also available as a supported option in a separate installation.

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