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Re: will this run esx 3.5?

30. Mar 31, 2009 5:32 AM in response to: gklooste
Click to view Horinius's profile Hot Shot 192 posts since
Jun 20, 2006
ad 3: One of 1GB or bigger will do (haven't treid bigger than 2GB yet though). These media are rather cheap nowadays. I use a Kingston 2GB at the moment. When you have ESXi running you have to leave iot there so why not get a "special" ESXi stick. I mean just buy one solely for that purpose, it will cost you probably less that 10 Euros/Dollars.
I have to leave it (the USB drive) there? You mean after "installation", the USB drive is still necessary? Well, in that case, I wouldn't call it "installation"....


Is that the same situation for CD? I mean, after installation, do I need to leave the CD inside the CD drive? I don't think so, because before reboot, it's written on the screen that I have to remove any CD from the system. No?

Re: will this run esx 3.5?

31. Mar 31, 2009 6:11 AM in response to: Horinius
Click to view gklooste's profile Novice vExpert 11 posts since
Dec 19, 2006

OK, lets take one step back.

There are two ways to run ESXi.

1. Run it from harddrive. Installed on a harddisk using the ESXi installable which is available for download from VMware's website using a CD.

2. Run it from a USB stick. Installed on a stick using the procedure which is described here: http://www.vminfo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/vminfonl-guide-create-an-esx-3i-usb-boot-key.pdf this also uses the downloadable ESXi installable.

option 1 uses a local harddrive to install it on

option 2 runs from the USB device without touching the local drive(s) and removing it during operation will cause issues ;) i.e. logs are written to the usb-device


Re: will this run esx 3.5?

32. Mar 31, 2009 7:47 AM in response to: gklooste
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Jun 20, 2006

I managed to borrow a 4GB USB drive from a friend. I then followed the procedure again, but I still can't make it boot!

Then I re-read the whole procedure (actually the whole page) and I spotted the last comment. Someone said he needed the "-sma" options with syslinux. I tried this first with my "SD Card + Card Reader" and you know what, this time my "SD Card + Card Reader" booted!

However, VMWare Hypervisor took a long time, really really long time to load. It took more than 30 minutes to load before installation could start! It seems like it's using USB1 transfer rate instead of USB2 (both card reader and USB host are in USB2, I'm 100% sure of this). Anyway, I let it go through everything up to reboot, but this time I got "Missing operatig system. Operatig System not found" message! (discussion below)

But for the sack of "scientific spirit", I took my friend's 4GB USB drive, made it bootable using syslinux (and the -sma options, of course) and tried again. Hmm, loading of VMware Hypervisor is once again very very slow. It's been more than 25 minutes and only about 66% is loaded! I could go on, but I suspect I'll get the same "Missing operatig system. Operatig System not found" message again after reboot......

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2. Run it from a USB stick. Installed on a stick using the procedure which is described here: http://www.vminfo.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/vminfonl-guide-create-an-esx-3i-usb-boot-key.pdf this also uses the downloadable ESXi installable.

option 1 uses a local harddrive to install it on

option 2 runs from the USB device without touching the local drive(s) and removing it during operation will cause issues ;) i.e. logs are written to the usb-device


I'm a bit confused...... or we misunderstood one another...? I don't want to install ESXi to a USB drive, but I want to install ESXi from a USB drive to the hard disk. Is this possible?


Re: will this run esx 3.5?

33. Mar 31, 2009 8:01 AM in response to: Horinius
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Jun 20, 2006

An update to my progress:

After waiting for more than 40 minutes to install from my friend's 4GB USB drive, I got the same "Missing operatig system. Operatig System not found" .... exactly as what I had predicted....


Re: will this run esx 3.5?

34. Mar 31, 2009 8:29 AM in response to: Horinius
Click to view gklooste's profile Novice vExpert 11 posts since
Dec 19, 2006

Just to check: are you using the USB to run ESXi or are you trying to install it from the USB.

Which procedure are you talking about, the piece above?

Re: will this run esx 3.5?

35. Mar 31, 2009 8:41 AM in response to: gklooste
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Jun 20, 2006
Of course the latter. That's what I've been talking about ever since: installation, not execution.

Re: will this run esx 3.5?

36. Mar 31, 2009 10:09 AM in response to: Horinius
Click to view gklooste's profile Novice vExpert 11 posts since
Dec 19, 2006

There you have it! It's a large misunderstanding...

When talking about USB sticks and ESXi people are refering to the "execution" of ESXi not installation. The procedure "how to run esxi from a USB stick" is about execution not installation.

So with installation ESXi you will have the same issues as with "the full version". Conclusion at this moment execution of esxi from usb does work (out of the box without modifications) and installation on other media will not work or needs some modification (maybe injection of drivers).

Re: will this run esx 3.5?

37. Apr 1, 2009 4:13 AM in response to: gklooste
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Jun 20, 2006

Yes, there's been a big misunderstanding, and I had insisted on that before by saying "...You mean after installation, the USB drive is still necessary? Well, in that case, I wouldn't call it installation...." but you just thought I was talking about execution, unfortunately. Actually, in this whole thread, some people are talking about installation, some about execution, and all by just saying "boot from USB". Very confusing. Anyway....

I want to put everything inside the HD. That's my point.

Yes, I had tried all possible ways of installation I could imagine, like plugging a USB CD Drive and install from it. All gives the same result, unfortunately. But it seems ESXi 3.5 U4 is out and it has better support for SATA controller. At least I could find its release note. But I just can't find the ISO image of this U4. Probably there's a time difference between publishing release note and releasing the product...

Right now, I have to use this temporary solution of booting ESXi O/S from a SD card (within a card reader).

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