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rpartmann Expert 227 posts since
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270. Aug 24, 2008 3:35 PM in response to: johnyb62
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Hi,

 

strange my ML115 G1 works.... well have to try to start some vm´s ....

 

 

reinhard.

 

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dmarsh22 Novice 6 posts since
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271. Aug 25, 2008 10:38 AM in response to: DannyH73
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

 

While some time has passed... I can partially confirm the hardware below -- In my case I am using ESXi 3.5u2 (patched 110271) from ISO.

 

 

The weirdness comes from offical documents

 

 

    http://www.vm-help.com/esx/esx3i/Hardware_support.php

 

 

 

...

 

 

    nVidia Corporation

 

 

        10de      0053      0000      0000      storage      ide      nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller

 

 

 

 

 

That is hardware I have (in addition to the crappy Sil 3114 Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!? -- just can't get it to work / but the "NVRaid" which works under sata_nv -- but don't expect any RAID functions from either)

 

 

I can ONLY get ESXi 3.5u2 (Version 3.5 Update 2 | 110271) to recognize (and read/write) to the SATA_NV. I understand that the VMFS2/3 can only be used on SCSI like devices but according to various documents, I should still be able to install/boot ESXi 3.5 from legacy IDE drives. My thinking was to attempt iSCSI or NFS but the later releases seem to NOT support any legacy IDE for booting.

 

 

The REALLY weird thing is if you log into the console (during install) it not only see's the Legacy IDE drives, but reads the partitions that previously exist on them! The installer simply refuses to install to anything legacy!

 

 

I might just use a small P-IDE w/ SATA adapter and leave it at that. I wanted to experiment with NFS (and possible iSCSI) at home -- I have full ESX at work with SAN and would like to try another storage option.

 

 

 

 

 

--Doug

 

 

kernel007 Novice 9 posts since
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272. Aug 26, 2008 4:16 PM in response to: dmarsh22
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Got the Sil3512 to work on my PE600SC, A09 BIOS.

SATA controller: http://wwwsci-worx.com/products/product.aspx?id=29

PE600SC: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/pe600sc/en/ug/1r234aa0.htm#1034878

Bought add-on RAM here: http://www.computermemoryoutlet.com/Dell-PowerEdge-600SC-memory.htm

My specs: 4GB RAM, WD SATA 500GB 7200RPM, 1.8 Celeron Proc., on ESX 3.5.

I might get one more HD to separate the OS with DataStore, as suppose to RAID1.

dmarsh22 Novice 6 posts since
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273. Aug 26, 2008 11:19 PM in response to: dmarsh22
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

 

UPDATE... I pluged in BOTH a SATA and a legacy PATA hard drive... re-installed ESXi (I know this area is for ESX)... and installed onto the SATA drive... and after the reboot.. the (nvidia chipset) PATA is available as a "block SCSI" device and I am able to install and run virtual machines from the legacy IDE drive (which according to the documentation is not allowed)... STRANGE!

 

 

--Doug

 

 

maishsk Expert User Moderators vExpert 569 posts since
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274. Aug 27, 2008 11:02 PM in response to: dmarsh22
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

I will add another config that I have working as of today..

 

Host

ESX3i U2

 

Hardware

IBM xSeries 335

2 Xeon 2.4Ghz CPU's

4Gb RAM

1x36gb SAS HD

LSI Logic / 53c1030 PCI-X Fusion-MPT Dual Ultra 320 SCSI Raid Adapter

2x Broadcom BCM5703 Nics

 


Maish

Systems Administrator & Virtualization Architect

 

Forgot to add which ESX platform..... oops

bezza Lurker 2 posts since
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275. Sep 7, 2008 1:04 PM in response to: rpartmann
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Hi There

 

I am new to IT and very much a novice so please help me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a ML115 G1 with three SATA drives in Raid 5. When I load the boot CD I get the em "Unable to find supported device". From reading this blog I understand that it is down to firstly my sata drives and secondly the fact that I have set them up in RAID5. I have never used linux but intend to learn so the scripting looks like latin to me. Can you give me some advice on the easiest way for me to get ESX up and running (drop raid 5 or buy a supported raid card) or will it be just too complicated for a newbee?

 

 

 

 

 

I also now realise this is the ESX 3.5 forum and not ESXi but I guess the issues are the same?

Dave.Mishchen… Guru User Moderators vExpert 11,904 posts since
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276. Sep 7, 2008 9:13 PM in response to: bezza
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Welcome to the VMware Community forums.  Do you know what sort of storage controller your system has?  With the lower end  nVidia MCP / Intel ICH models,  the drivers that come with ESX / ESXi do not support RAID,  so I would first remove that.   The script  / methods in this script will not work with ESXi due to some differences in architecture, but it may still be possible to get your server working.

bezza Lurker 2 posts since
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277. Sep 8, 2008 12:15 PM in response to: Dave.Mishchen…
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Thanks for that. I am sorry I do not know. Device manager just says Nvidia raid controller. Where would i find that information?I have disabled the raid now and it makes no difference.

Dave.Mishchen… Guru User Moderators vExpert 11,904 posts since
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278. Sep 9, 2008 1:25 AM in response to: bezza
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

See this page for getting the PCI ID - http://www.vm-help.com/esx/esx3i/find_PCI_ID.php.

future2000 Lurker 3 posts since
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279. Sep 13, 2008 8:02 AM in response to: Grimfish
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

 

Thanks for your post, great reading. I've just purchased a ASUS V3 P5 G33 barebones, popped in a Quad core 2.4Ghz Q6600 and 8Gb of RAM. I was hoping this would support ESX 3.5 and having read your post I'm pretty sure I won't have any issues. Let me know how you get on with the iSCSI support as that is something I will want to add in due course.

 

 

 

 

 

Grimfish Novice 9 posts since
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280. Sep 13, 2008 2:21 PM in response to: future2000
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Hi Future2000,

 

 

 

 

Glad it was of assistance, yes I have it all up and running and have had since my original post, It runs like a dream given the cost and that it is aimed at being a lab box. Just remeber not to use the PATA controller and the Network card onboard as they are not supported but if you follow my original post you should be ok. The local disk/s will be seen as SCSI storage (don't use the intel raid either) so you can run all your VM's locally if you want to get started straight away. Also as a side note I have put in two Gigabit Network controllers, 1 PCIe and 1 PCI (both intel) and they both work properly (the PCIe a little faster IMO).

 

 

As for iSCSI, I desperatly wanted to use the Thecus as I really like the unit but gave up waiting on a firmware that supported the correct iSCSI functions. A bit later in this forum I mentioned I purchased a low end ASUS P5BV/SAS server board and use the LSI onboard controller to run a raid 1E (LSI Special raid) and deliver iSCSI via MS Windows sevrer 2003 and a software package.

 

 

This works very well for running VM's, at the moment I have 6 VM's running: MS Small Business server 2003, MS Exchange 2007 on x64, 3 * Server 2003 std as terminal servers etc, and an XP machine. It still has plenty of head room available to run more VM's if needed, and I am looking at starting some server 2008 work with it soon. The only time it struggles is during big disk I/O operations such a VM clone but even then is doesn't take too long to finish.

 

 

I haven't tried HA and DRS as yet as I haven't had the need to buy a second machine to run in a cluster as yet, also we have ESX set up at work so I have had a play HA etc there. I am positive it would work without issue if you went the whole hog.

 

 

In the not too distant futire I will be writing about it a blogs.grimfish.com and putting up some more info and photo's so if you interested head on over in a little while and have a look (it's still under construction at the moment).

 

 

I hope that covers it all

 

 

Cheers

future2000 Lurker 3 posts since
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281. Sep 13, 2008 11:51 PM in response to: Grimfish
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

 

great news. I've literally just brought the box and built it a couple of evenings ago. I have the next 4 days of so I'm going to install Server 2008 and test the hypervisor virtualisation out before trying ESX. I've bid for an Intel Pro 1000 desktop adaptor on ebay so hopefully I'll get that soon. My main interest is to use this system for study purposes. I'm planning on taking my MCSE 2003 upgrade to 2008 TS exam in a few months and my old PC just hasn't had the power I need to run the virtual environments I need too. We use VMWare a lot at work and that's something I'm really looking at getting a lot better at using, perhaps thinking of the VCP qualification next year some time so being able to run ESX on this system is great!

 

 

As I can't quite justify the cost of another PC yet I'll probably just chuck in a couple more SATA drives for the time being and try to distribute the disk i/o from the VM's across a number of disks. Hopefully they will still perform ok.

 

 

Keep the posts coming, and I'll check out the blog!

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grimfish Novice 9 posts since
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282. Sep 14, 2008 4:03 AM in response to: future2000
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

 

Hi Future2000,

 

 

Please let me know how you go with the MS Hypervisor, after I get my VCP I am looking to study that myself. As for performance with a couple of SATA disks, it'll be fine. That was how I had mine untill I did the iSCSI target and RAID disks and I only had 1 HDD. I only justified the cost of the extra server as I use it to hold all my important files as well for my day to day home stuff as it's nice to have the redundany in the disks, a little more peace of mind.

 

 

I am not sure what exam options are out your way but they have recently released a fast track VCP course in Australia that combines the "Install and Configure" as well as the "Deploy, Secure and Analyze" together over 5 days. I think this is a better option as it gives you the choice of exams to sit. From what I have seen (i have been studying the 3.0 course ware) the install and configue is relatively easy to learn. Just something to keep in mind.

 

 

Best of luck with the rig.

 

 

Chers

 

 

marius1 Hot Shot 331 posts since
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283. Sep 18, 2008 6:03 AM in response to: rpartmann
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Can anybody please provide the model of an additional network interface that works on a DC 7800?

Regards

Marius

maishsk Expert User Moderators vExpert 569 posts since
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284. Sep 19, 2008 2:12 AM in response to: marius1
Re: SATA Support Clear as Mud!?

Intel Pro 1000 Cards works fine!!

Maish

Systems Administrator & Virtualization Architect

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