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Click to view mimo17's profile Novice 10 posts since
Aug 4, 2005
Hello maishsk

Good that you know it afterwards better - you are brilliant.
We have tested intensive and found no bugs. And as an other post said. ESX is fine. It's the money makeing machine (licensing) what broke.

If you are one of the best guys in the world - help to find a solution and not complain what someone did wrong in the past.

Michael
Click to view LudoS's profile Novice 7 posts since
Aug 12, 2008

Hi Joerg,

I don't know how you designed your environment, but despite of our highly redundand hardware (8 NIC, 8 SAN), UPS ,multi-path everywhere, there are still a number of failures you can not provide redundancy for (i.e. motherboard failure, CPU failure, local RAID controller itself), plus failure of ESX virtualization layer itself in this case.

To circumvent such kind of issues, VMware designed HA/DRS/VMotion. But this is not enough to protect you fully. You have to improve global redundancy at the host level by keeping N+1 redundancy. If your environment is Production only and critical, you should be able to loose one server in the cluster and restart the VM's on the remaining ones.

I'm the first to recognize that such a bug is a shame for VMware but don't blame them for poor design.

If you want to be proactive, I suggest you find the ESX server hosting the less domageable VM's you have (maybe one hosting only dev servers, or the one with the least VM's or the one where customers are the most tolerant) and stop all VM's on it (an orderly shutdown is always better than a crash), restart them elsewhere on 3.5U2 and downgrade the empty box to 3.5U1. You can then use VMotion to move VM's from another ESX 3.5U2 server (it is working, i tested it) and perform a "rolling downgrade" of your infrastructure. Re-installing ESX should not take more than one hour and you will be in a much better situation when VMware release the fix, regardless of the form it will have, ISO, RPM ...

Hope this helps, best regards,

Ludovic


Click to view ab_lal's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Jul 4, 2006
We used the following workaround to power on the VM's.
Find the host where a VM is located
run ' vmware-cmd -l ' to list the vms.
issue the commands:
service ntpd stop
date -s 08/01/2008
vmware-cmd /vmfs/volumes/<vm path/vmname.vmx start
service ntpd start
Click to view LB@SGI's profile Novice 38 posts since
Dec 18, 2007
I agree with your, however, I did not Update to this "update 2" level manually.

Apparently, major update releases are put in place, automatically by Update manager!
I was unaware that Update Manager would do this, i thought it only put out interim patches, and not major OS updates!

We have (now HAD) Update Manager running the updates monthly.
Apparently this got put in the update sequence for installation and I didn't see it.

I have Change Control documents in the pipeline for U2, and had expected to install in phases.
(the right way)

But now, i'm apparently all updated. (Except for VirtualCenter and VCB).
Click to view LeoKurz2's profile Novice 21 posts since
Jan 17, 2006

Just my 5 cent on timesync: The VM will pick up the ESX date & time during reboot. The BIOS clock of the vm is set by ESX. When you have turned on timesync in the VMware tools, the clock of the VM will not be set back but it will be slowed down until the ESX clock "catches up". So time in VMs is affected if you use the tools to sync time.

Cheers

__Leo

Click to view frank_wegner's profile Expert 410 posts since
Oct 26, 2005
Actually, one of the VMware customers I work with suggested this enhancement request:
Remove the license server from VMware completely. Most customers are honest anyway, and if someone wants to cheat he can find ways to do so, anyway.
Click to view jbusink's profile Novice 10 posts since
Feb 6, 2006
Same issue here and temporarily resetting the date works. This truely is a major issue.
Click to view abeggled's profile Enthusiast 65 posts since
May 23, 2007
atbnet wrote:
Cant see a patch though. I'll be opening a support request too and asking for an ETA!
Update from kb-article:

An issue with ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 causes the product license to expire on August 12, 2008. VMware engineering has isolated the root cause of this issue and {color:#ff0000}will reissue the various upgrade media including the ESX 3.5 Update 2 ISO, ESXi 3.5 Update 2 ISO, ESX 3.5 Update 2 upgrade tar and zip files by noon, PST on August 13. These will be available from the page: {color:#000000}http://www.vmware.com/download/vi. Until then, VMware advises against upgrading to ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2.
The Update patch bundles will be released separately later in the week. This KB article will be updated as soon as more information is available, check back frequently for updates and additions.


Daniel

Click to view totgate's profile Novice 6 posts since
Jun 24, 2008

""Hi FrancWest,

Everyone is mobilized here at VMware. mjlin, who posted in this thread several hours ago, is the product manager. Support knows what is going on. Someone else has posted our first communication here on this thread (patch should be available within 36 hours). Unfortunately I also can't access the kb, but I assume that posted message is from the kb.

I know we're preparing additional communication, so check that kb and expect more from us as we have more information. I'm sorry we weren't able to reach out to everyone directly yet.

John""

Unbelivable, you claim to be a enterprise solution. You really SUCK BIGTIME. 36 hrs is not acceptable, as a matter of fact its not acceptable that this happened at all. MS has always been the target for people to yell at when it comes to buggy software but they have never managed to do something like this. My company is one of the major resellers of VmWare here in Sweden but i really think thats gonna change now. You should really be ashamed of yourself for letting something like this happen, and then you have the stomach to tell us, your customers and users that we are suppose to wait for 36 hrs for afix to emerge.... You dont deserve to be in this bussiness any more. You have cost thousand of peoples and companys a lot of money this time with your little stunt... SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!!!!

/Tobbe

Click to view Erik Zandboer's profile Expert 671 posts since
Jun 11, 2007
Even worse, the 36-hr solution will be for ISO and upgrade TARs only... Patches are to arrive even later than that... Somewhere this week :(
Click to view leeus's profile Novice 8 posts since
Feb 4, 2006

Has someone tried setting the date forward to the 13th?

Does it "go away" tomorrow?

Click to view hughs's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Aug 12, 2008
I've just tried it. Still broken on the 13th.
Click to view Bakafish.com's profile Novice 8 posts since
Aug 11, 2008
A little bit of calm please. This was a major screw up, but 36 hours is a really short time to fix this particular issue. As I stated in a previous post, this fix is most likely going to touch many many places in the code-base. Do you really want them to compound the problem by rushing out a broken set of patches that could be an even bigger disaster? This bug doesn't lose data, there are some simple workarounds that will allow you to boot your VM's without too much impact.

Right now the engineers are having to create a new branch off of the 3.5u2 code-base, apply the fixes for this problem, compile the entire payload, pull all the QA people from every country that ESX is released in (all different time zones) off of what they were doing to make sure they didn't break something else and put everything up on the site (making sure to remove all the legacy broken stuff.) This is usually a 2-3 week process, 36 hours is better than nothing. And if you really think Microsoft will serve you better and more effectively, well maybe you should give their product a try and see how far that gets you. We'll be here when you're done with that...
Click to view dmanconi's profile Enthusiast 111 posts since
Oct 14, 2004
If I could get to either kb site or the article itself would be nice.....All other websites are fine, just not that article or the kb.vmware.com site....

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