VMware Communities: Message List - Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

etung — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:49:21 GMT

One other question, are the snapshot files around 1/2 GB in size?

It depends on how much you use them - the base disks will stay the same but the delta disks will grow over time. Both use the vmdk extension; the delta disks tend to have a bunch of numbers at the end of the name. 1/2 GB seems reasonable for light/moderate use.

Another possibility is these are suspend files (vmem), which will take as much space as you allocated RAM to the VM - again, 1/2 GB seems reasonable.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

P15D24 — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 00:35:45 GMT

Upgrade went smooth, no issues. Speed is good with debug off. This is faster than my work HP core2 running Visio and Access. Suspend now works great, no hangs but a bit slow for everything to come back to life. Is the delay due to restarting the networking? First time I have tried the shared folders, works fine but it is slow.

One other question, are the snapshot files around 1/2 GB in size? I was doing an incremental backup of the laptop and noticed I had 6 or 7 files with XP in the name each in that size range. Not using bootcamp.

So far looks like a great b3 release.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

synapco — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:22:28 GMT

My experience with this beta is:
1. I can finally suspend Fusion without it locking my entire machine.
2. After installing and re-running Tools, everything was initially very very slow. Even after I re-booted everything was slow. Once Fusion finally opened XP-Pro - the programs continued to open very very slowly. However, after shutting it down and restarting - the speed picked up and now the programs are running considerably faster.

I am running it with debug off and on an intel core duo 20" 2GB iMac with 564MB attributed to Fusion.

Overall - this appears to be a very solid update. Thank you VMware!!

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Andreas Masur — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:09:48 GMT

Where do you want me to put the debug files because I vaguely remember running
an application that creates files for submission and then having issues with browser
in support system. I tried latest Firefox and Safari but can't remember final outcome.

VMware Fusion Beta Support...

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Andreas Masur — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:06:40 GMT

There are no issues with Mac browsers that I know of.
In fact, I personally tested it in Safari and Camino
last night.

I can second that...have downloaded last night using Safari without any hassle...

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Andreas Masur — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:05:38 GMT

How do i disable this debug mode? Its not clear to
me for some reason.

And since an image says more than a thousand words...

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Cool Games — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:00:42 GMT

Remind me again...
I tried my VMX and it worked with Business Plan Pro and
haven't tried with USB Keyspan to serial app --->> CAR CHIP.
That was running with debug and crashing without in last release.
BUT...

The Boot Camp partition on Solo Core Mini doesn't convey the mouse (or keyboard).

Where do you want me to put the debug files because I vaguely remember running
an application that creates files for submission and then having issues with browser
in support system.
I tried latest Firefox and Safari but can't remember final outcome.

Otherwise I like it.
When it's released will there be a party ?

My goal is Auran TRAINZ 2006 unless the MAC port comes out.
They just annouced Classic and last year asked for BETA testers.
Native is what is on BOOT CAMP partition working with DIRECT X 10 I think.

I hate these senior moments.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

bigrock0 — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:40:01 GMT

i had similar problem for download. FF did not work for me. i just created *.exe file on my desktop, that's it.

i tried safari and it's workiing.. download now

congrats to vmware team! thanks for the beta WITHOUT debug!

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

segleaur — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:25:03 GMT

kudos to the dev team. i've been quietly waiting on the sidelines to see how virtualization would evolve on the mac. i'll put it this way: fusion runs flawlessly installing apps (like FEAR) while still running a video on itunes, with safari open, along with an active chat in adium, and without jittering when i activate expose either in itunes or the vmware window. nice. couldn't do that before.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Pat Lee — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:47:14 GMT

There are no issues with Mac browsers that I know of. In fact, I personally tested it in Safari and Camino last night.

Pat

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

bgertzfield — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:46:22 GMT

aah thank you does this require a reboot?

Any currently running virtual machines will need to be restarted (or suspended then resumed).

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

pauldf78 — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:35:11 GMT

aah thank you does this require a reboot?

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

alexish — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:33:57 GMT

Pat-

Just to follow-up:

Somewhat ironically, I tried downloading using IE in a VM session & I was able to download the new beta. So there (appears?) to be something funny going on maybe with Mac browsers?

--Alexis

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

bgertzfield — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:33:22 GMT

Select the VMware Fusion > Preferences menu, and uncheck "Enable debugging checks".

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

pauldf78 — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:30:46 GMT

How do i disable this debug mode? Its not clear to me for some reason.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

alexish — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:30:33 GMT

Pat,

Thanks for your reply, and sorry to be so daft, but I'm still having trouble. I filled out the form multiple times, and receive the following page:

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Download Fusion Beta - Your Registration Has Been Received!

Thank you for your interest in the Fusion Beta from VMware. We are pleased to help you begin enjoying the benefits of virtualization.

Sincerely,
The VMware Team

[Download]
---

I click [Download] and it brings me back to the (registration) form I just filled out! I don't see anything about a EULA, and I tried this with both FF & Safari on my MPB...:(

Thanks again,

--Alexis

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Pat Lee — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:09:05 GMT

Alexis,

Thanks for your feedback. We are required to have a download form for VMware downloads. I have done my best to create a minimum download form to be as painless as possible compared to other VMware products.

Once you fill out the form and accept the EULA, you can download the latest DMG.

Best,

Pat Lee
Senior Product Manager - Mac Products
VMware

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

alexish — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:06:53 GMT

Hello,

Maybe I'm just being silly, but I can't seem to download the new beta. When I click download, it asks me to fill out a marketing form (why?) even though I am logged into my vmware account. When I submit the form, I get a thank-you with a download button. When clicked, it brings me back to the form.

How do I download the new beta?

Thanks in advance,

--Alexis

p.s. and just a suggestion - can you just provide a link to the DMG instead of *requiring* people to fill out forms?

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

pauldf78 — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:48:40 GMT

no coherse yet.. bummer.. I guess i will still use both for now...

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

dp_fusion — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:57:57 GMT

I've installed it and verified both Solaris and XP work great - all functionality is preserved and performance is up noticably with debug disabled. I hope that's not an illusion like the new fade

Excellent job. Looking forward to the RC cycle.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Pat Lee — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:38:37 GMT

Hello Will. You don't need to change or reactivate your VM. However, you need to go to the VMware menu, select Preferences and uncheck the Enable debugging checks. You will need to restart the virtual machine for the change to take effect.

Let us know how it goes. It should also help your phone issue from what I have heard from the USB lead engineer.

Best,

Pat

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

blind_user — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:35:29 GMT

hi. question from the blind user again, smile. do i have to reactive, re install windows etc. before installing this beta? how does all this work. and as a speech user under fusion i'd be interested to see the performance increase when i turn off debugging. dont worry aobut the keyboard not beeing grabbed by either host or guest yet as i have managed to work out how to swtich between the two though this may e possible in this beta 3, not sure. so what i am asking is, can my vm stay where it is, or what. regards, will

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

jamesca — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:24:07 GMT

Disable inline debugging?
Bootcamp?

HOLY COW!

So long Parallels.

Hellooooooooooooo VMWare.

Nice work guys and congrats. Thank you!!!

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

rcardona2k — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:19:20 GMT

Thanks for the heads-up Pat. Any way I figure it, I don't have enough room on my MacBook Pro for Redmond's "finest" anyway. I may start small with XP and I'll let you know how that goes.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Pat Lee — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:15:08 GMT

Vista Boot Camp is not supported in Beta 3 Richard, please wait for a future release to give that a shot.

Thanks,
Pat

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

bgertzfield — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 03:01:13 GMT

Bah! You don't need the Special Characters palette for that -- just hit Option-R for ®.

(And Option-2 is , for the VMware Fusion.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

rcardona2k — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:58:57 GMT

Sorry Pat. I promise to hold my horses and not steal any further thunder later. You and your team deserve the credit on this very generous update. I can tell some hard work was put into this one!

Already, I'm enjoying the speed of beta 3, the window re-sizing is cool. The Power status when the VM is off rocks. Host-networking is awesome. The Special Characters palette is also pretty cool:

Now what I'm trying to arrange for is to make a Boot Camp 1.2 partition for Windows Vista®...

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Andreas Masur — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:42:21 GMT

You guys just rock...the list of new features is more than impressive...some the things I was hoping for such as possibility to disable the debugging code for faster performance if needed, bootcamp support, host-only networking just to name the most important ones. Are you guys are actually reading my mind?

I was going to set up my MacBook Pro again...and of course you made more than my day with announcing BootCamp support. This way I can just use BootCamp when I need the raw performance and use Fusion for my regular work (e.g. compiling in the background) without the need for two separate installations.

Given the past experience with your betas I even expect this working right out of the box...again, you have managed to impress me one more time. Thank you very much.

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

Pat Lee — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:57:51 GMT

Richard, you are making me look bad. I was just finishing the announcement.

Seriously, let us know what you think!

Pat

Re: Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

bgertzfield — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:33:40 GMT

You're a fast one!

Please let us know what you think. You'll be one of the first to try it!

Thank you team, Beta 3 Build 43733 is out

rcardona2k — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:20:10 GMT

From the Release Notes:

What's New in Beta 3
New and Improved Features in Beta 3
This Beta 3 release of VMware Fusion for Mac includes the following new features and feature improvements:

Greatly improved performance By popular demand, you can now disable debugging code to experience the full power and performance that VMware Fusion offers for running your favorite PC applications.
Support for Boot Camp VMware Fusion automatically detects your Boot Camp partition, so you can now run a Windows XP virtual machine from your existing Boot Camp partition. You no longer have to choose Windows or Mac: you can now run Windows side-by-side with your favorite Mac applications. Note: For this Beta 3 release, Windows Vista is not supported; only Windows XP is supported.
Windows Easy Install You want to run Windows applications, but you don't want to become a guru just to install Windows. VMware Fusion has you covered; just answer a few simple questions, insert your Windows CD and let VMware Fusion take care of the rest and automatically create the optimal Windows virtual machine for your Mac, including the installation of VMware Tools.
Virtual machine packages Virtual machines are now encapsulated in a single, easy-to-manage package. Move your virtual machines to another hard drive or Mac simply by copying a file.
Enhanced virtual machine creation The entire virtual machine creation process has been streamlined, and the new Windows Easy Install feature makes creating a virtual machine even easier than before. The New Virtual Machine Assistant remembers the location you choose for future virtual machine creation.
Enhanced virtual machine library Managing multiple virtual machines is even easier with the Virtual Machine Library. Add new virtual machines by just dragging them into the Library, reorder virtual machines with drag and drop, and use the delete key on the Keyboard to remove virtual machines from the library. Open a Virtual Machine without powering it on, using the new Settings button, which opens a virtual machine directly to the Hardware Editor.
Host-Only Networking Host-Only networking creates a network that is completely contained within your Mac, with a network connection between the virtual machine and your Mac. Use host-only networking to set up an isolated virtual network.
Improved suspend/shutdown state When a virtual machine is suspended, VMware Fusion shows a screenshot of the last known state of the virtual machine and a friendly play button so you can get up and running again quickly.
Improved hardware editor Settings for virtual hardware are now complete: you can remove virtual hardware from the hardware editor when virtual machines are powered off.
Improved international support European and Japanese Apple keyboards now work properly in virtual machines.

Wow, downloading now...