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    <title>VMware Communities: Message List - Zero out VM images</title>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:43:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Zero out VM images</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1298971?tstart=0#1298971</link>
      <description>it is also useful to safe time with backups ...&lt;br /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:43:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>continuum</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1298971?tstart=0#1298971</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-06-30T16:43:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Zero out VM images</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1298914?tstart=0#1298914</link>
      <description>Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
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Zeroing out anything within a VM is really a security/anti-forensics issue. However, now that I know the specifics what Continuum has mentioned is the place to start your research.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;Best regards, &lt;br /&gt;
Edward L. Haletky VMware Communities User Moderator, VMware vExpert 2009, &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.virtualizationpractice.com"&gt;Virtualization Practice Analyst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now Available: &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/VMware_Virtual_Infrastructure_Security"&gt;'VMware vSphere(TM) and Virtual Infrastructure Security: Securing the Virtual Environment'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also available &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/VMWare_ESX_Server_in_the_Enterprise"&gt;'VMWare ESX Server in the Enterprise'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Blog_Roll"&gt;SearchVMware Pro&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/blog"&gt;Blue Gears&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Top_Virtualization_Security_Links"&gt;Top Virtualization Security Links&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Virtualization_Security_Round_Table_Podcast"&gt;Virtualization Security Round Table Podcast&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:09:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Texiwill</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1298914?tstart=0#1298914</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-06-30T16:09:49Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>4 months, 4 weeks ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Zero out VM images</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296754?tstart=0#1296754</link>
      <description>have a look here &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#shrinkimg"&gt;http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/#shrinkimg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
it lists several tools for various guest types&lt;br /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:43:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>continuum</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296754?tstart=0#1296754</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-06-27T20:43:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>5 months, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Zero out VM images</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296693?tstart=0#1296693</link>
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What I am getting at is this:&lt;br /&gt;
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 When files are deleted within the guest OS bits are left behind which are included in image backups (vRanger etc) - I have read that you can zero areas on disk and thus not back them up...&lt;br /&gt;
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I have seen people refer to sdelete and the shrink option within vmware tools.......&lt;br /&gt;
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I want to know if sdelete - shrink is still the option which should be used to accomplish this????&lt;br /&gt;
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 Not sure this is meant for the security area though...&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:49:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>NSITPS</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296693?tstart=0#1296693</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-06-27T18:49:13Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>5 months, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Zero out VM images</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296610?tstart=0#1296610</link>
      <description>Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
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Moved to Security forum.&lt;br /&gt;
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If your VMDK format is Zeroed Thick then the unpopulated blocks are zeroed by default. The same for Eager Zeroed Thick. If you use Thin disks then this is not the case but unallocated/unpopulated blocks will not be part of your backup either.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not sure there is a way to zero the unpopulated blocks. If there is it is something you would use from within the Guest OS.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;Best regards, &lt;br /&gt;
Edward L. Haletky VMware Communities User Moderator, VMware vExpert 2009, &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.virtualizationpractice.com"&gt;Virtualization Practice Analyst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now Available: &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/VMware_Virtual_Infrastructure_Security"&gt;'VMware vSphere(TM) and Virtual Infrastructure Security: Securing the Virtual Environment'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also available &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/VMWare_ESX_Server_in_the_Enterprise"&gt;'VMWare ESX Server in the Enterprise'&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Blog_Roll"&gt;SearchVMware Pro&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/blog"&gt;Blue Gears&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Top_Virtualization_Security_Links"&gt;Top Virtualization Security Links&lt;/a&gt;|&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.astroarch.com/wiki/index.php/Virtualization_Security_Round_Table_Podcast"&gt;Virtualization Security Round Table Podcast&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:35:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Texiwill</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296610?tstart=0#1296610</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-06-27T14:35:05Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>5 months, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Zero out VM images</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296547?tstart=0#1296547</link>
      <description>&lt;br /&gt;
At this current time what is the best method for zeroing out un populated areas of VMDKs prior to image level backups - Also, is it safe and does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
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 Thanks</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:10:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>NSITPS</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/1296547?tstart=0#1296547</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-06-27T10:10:44Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>5 months, 1 day ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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