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    <title>VMware Communities: Message List - SD VMUG July 10th presentation - Running ESX on the cheap</title>
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      <title>SD VMUG July 10th presentation - Running ESX on the cheap</title>
      <link>http://communities.vmware.com/message/999948?tstart=0#999948</link>
      <description>&lt;h1&gt;Running VMware ESX 3.x on the cheap&lt;/h1&gt;
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San Diego VMUG&lt;br /&gt;
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Lawrence Dee&lt;br /&gt;
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Systems Engineer - Cardinal Health&lt;br /&gt;
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Consultant - North County Computer Consulting&lt;br /&gt;
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July 10, 2008&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;h1&gt;{Slide 2} Options for running ESX on the cheap &lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;bq. for lab/testing/training/demo purposes&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Challenge is ESX will install on IDE/ATA, but VMFS storage requires SCSI&lt;br /&gt;
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Therefore, 2 primary inexpensive options:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Use iSCSI setup&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Use SATA controller that will use a SCSI driver (thereby fooling ESX)&lt;/li&gt;
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Links on White-box setups &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-thread" href="http://communities.vmware.com/thread/121231"&gt;http://communities.vmware.com/thread/121231&lt;/a&gt; Cheap ESX solution (Tests)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://vmetc.com/2008/03/14/esx-home-lab-hardware-shopping-list/"&gt;http://vmetc.com/2008/03/14/esx-home-lab-hardware-shopping-list/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.vm-help.com/esx/esx3.5/Whiteboxes_SATA_Controllers_for_ESX_3.5_3i.htm"&gt;http://www.vm-help.com/esx/esx3.5/Whiteboxes_SATA_Controllers_for_ESX_3.5_3i.htm&lt;/a&gt; Motherboards and unsupported servers that work with ESX 3.5 and / or 3i Installable&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.vmprofessional.com/index.php?content=sata_faq"&gt;http://www.vmprofessional.com/index.php?content=sata_faq&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Inexpensive white box clones
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;HP D530&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.ntpro.nl/blog/archives/325-The-ultimate-ESX-3.5-white-box.html"&gt;http://www.ntpro.nl/blog/archives/325-The-ultimate-ESX-3.5-white-box.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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Or, run ESX 3.x under Workstation 6.x!&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;h1&gt;{Slide 3}  Running VMware ESX 3.x under Workstation 6.x&lt;/h1&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Running ESX v3.0.x under Workstation v6.0.x &lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.xtravirt.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;#38;task=view&amp;#38;id=99&amp;#38;Itemid=124"&gt;http://www.xtravirt.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;#38;task=view&amp;#38;id=99&amp;#38;Itemid=124&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guide to installing VMware ESX3 on Workstation 6&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guide to installing VMware ESX3 on Workstation 6 - Part 2 &lt;a class="jive-link-adddocument" href="http://communities.vmware.com/community-document-picker.jspa?communityID=&amp;subject=IET+Virtual+Shared+Storage"&gt;IET Virtual Shared Storage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Guide to installing VMware ESX3 on Workstation 6 - Part 3 &lt;a class="jive-link-adddocument" href="http://communities.vmware.com/community-document-picker.jspa?communityID=&amp;subject=OpenFiler+VIrtual+Shared+Storage"&gt;OpenFiler VIrtual Shared Storage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Commentary on VMware ESX3.5 on Workstation 6.0
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&lt;li&gt;Basically talks about the need for a newer revision of  AMD Virtualization (AMD-V &amp;lsquo;Pacifica') / Intel Virtualization Technology (VT) found in Intel Quad-Core CPUs (and I believe 3rd generation AMD chips (Phenom)&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Desktop CPUs
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2quad.htm"&gt;http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/core2quad.htm&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Most, but not all, Intel CPUs T5600 or higher have VT&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx"&gt;http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external" href="http://products.amd.com/en-us/NotebookCPUResult.aspx"&gt;http://products.amd.com/en-us/NotebookCPUResult.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Note: Server/workstation CPUs
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&lt;li&gt;Looks like AMD quad-core Barcelona based Opterons share 10h architecture with Phenoms, so should also work &amp;bull;Xeons released mid-2007 should also work&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;VMware Workstation v6.5 beta 2
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&lt;li&gt;Originally removed support for some Intel virtualization handling (&amp;lsquo;too bloated / cumbersome") to support ESX v3.5 but based on community feedback was added back to v6.5.  AMD support was always present&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;h1&gt;{Slide 4} My Experience - setup&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Dell Latitude D820 T7200 (Core 2 Duo 2.0 GHz VT enabled, 64-bit capable) 2GB RAM
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&lt;li&gt;External Raptor 10k RPM SATA drive for VMs&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Host OS - was running Vista Ultimate x32 SP1, but needed more ram, so dropped host OS to - XP Pro x86/32 SP3&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VMware Workstation 6.5b2 (build 99530)&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;5 VMs (currently) built initially based up XtraVirt.com's ESX 3.0.x under WS6.0.x
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&lt;li&gt;Fedora 7 running OpenFiler / IET 0.4.15 (256MB RAM, 1 vCPU)
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&lt;li&gt;40GB vmdk, 30+GB for iSCSI storage&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;ESX#1  v3.5 Update 1 Build 82663 (768 MB RAM 1 vCPU)
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IDE local,  SCSI for local VMFS&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;VMkernel set for same NAT'ed network as Service Console&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;ESX#2  v3.5 Update 1 (768 MB RAM 1 vCPU)
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IDE only&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Virtual Center 2.5 update 1 (892MB RAM 1 vCPU XP Pro SP2)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;ESX#3  v3.0.2 Update 1 (768 MB RAM 1 vCPU)
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;IDE system drive, SCSI for local VMFS&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;h1&gt;{Slide 5} My Experience - challenges&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Virtual Center
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;RAM - finally upped RAM to 768+MB and that seems to have really helped&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;CPU usage - Maxing out 1 CPU, tried 2 and squeezes out other VMs so went back to 1 vCPU for VC&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Followed VMware kb article to stop statistic collection (not sure that helped - seems to have)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;not uncommon for vpxclient to crash in VirtualCenter VM (most likely CPU starved?)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;ESX couldn't see iSCSI storage in my setup (most likely user error?) though MS initiator can&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Switched from logging using VC client to log into Virtual Center and log direct into ESX server - seems to work better at the moment
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&lt;li&gt;ESX using 400MB of RAM sitting there, so upped ESX VM from 512 to 768 MB of RAM&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;I've adjusted the VIC timeout from 30 seconds to 60 seconds&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Running XP's Task Mgr in Virtual Center VM drives CPU to 100% with Task Mgr taking 50%???
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I do have WS 6.0.3? VM Tools installed rather than WS6.5b2's VMtools (read of blue screen with latest VM tools).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;li&gt;Bottom line
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&lt;li&gt;I was unable to build a Win XP or 2003 VM under ESX under WS6.5b2 (couldn't see disk drive??)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;I was able to get a VM running (Bart PE booting off ISO file)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
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&lt;/ul&gt;
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Future plans&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;* Switch from using ESX 3.5 to ESX3i (or latest product name) - save 300-400MB per ESX VM?&lt;/div&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:35:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>Lawrence</author>
      <guid>http://communities.vmware.com/message/999948?tstart=0#999948</guid>
      <dc:date>2008-07-22T17:35:05Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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